Chapter 117 Single fight or group fight
Is the photolithography machine technology and equipment of the 45 Research Institute of the Ministry of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering worth 6 million now? A machine that is nine years behind the market is definitely not worth the money. These six The millions were actually used to buy out the engineering teams of Zhou Shi, Wang Xia, and Zhang Yingshi.
One thousand gold buys horse bones, and 6 million Zhou Shi’s R&D team buys Dongxin Semiconductor from Research Institute 45!
In the future, Dongxin Semiconductor can cooperate with 45 Research Institute or other R&D units, but it will definitely be dominated by Dongxin Semiconductor. The patents, technologies, equipment, etc. developed must be Only if it belongs to Dongxin Semiconductor.
It’s not that I don’t trust these research institutes, it’s just that there have been too many nonsense incidents in the domestic scientific research industry in the past few years. I still remember that in the past few years, many domestic research institutes that develop lithography machines and other technologies have It’s “defend against the inside but not against the outside”!
That is, when foreign companies visit, those research institutes will show off all their assets and explain their technologies, research and development results, etc. in detail to them without hiding anything. This allows foreign companies to easily find out. The products being developed by various research institutes are not real or fake, and some even go directly back to copycats and register patents overseas first.
But in China, major research institutes are wary of each other, do not report or exchange their own research and development results, and are very wary of their own people.
In the final analysis, this phenomenon has a lot to do with funding for research and development. When funds are insufficient, funds need to be grabbed. No one wants to be robbed of launching research and development results in front of them, and their efforts will be compromised. Destroy it once and then take away the funds.
But Li Dongling does not hope that when the research institute that cooperates with Dongxin Semiconductor comes to visit Nikon, Canon, ASML and other companies, Dongxin Semiconductor will be sold out. They are all exposed in front of these competitors, so they should be on guard for a long time!
But for Zhou Shi and other engineers who had been in the research institute for decades, it was a bit of a shock to be suddenly asked to leave the research institute where they had spent their entire lives and join Dongxin Semiconductor. Make it difficult for them to accept.
For engineers of Zhou Shi's generation, they basically stay in the same company for the rest of their lives. From graduation, working, marrying, having children, to retiring, they all work in the same company. After entering that door, when they come out again, it has been a lifetime. .
Now that they suddenly have to leave the research institute and join Dongxin Semiconductor, they are all hesitant. Li Dongling’s meaning is very clear, that is, only if they join Dongxin Semiconductor will Dongxin Semiconductor be willing to continue investing in optical research and development. Engraving machine, this is a prerequisite.
But suddenly leaving the place where I have stayed all my life, everyone is reluctant and confused. If nothing else, I just say that the old things that have been at home for more than ten years may not be used at all. But when it comes time to throw it away, I will be hesitant and reluctant to let it go. I will throw it away directly, and I may feel empty for a while.
“Let’s eat first, Chief Engineer Zhou,” Li Dongling said to Zhou Shi and the three of them. “The logistics department has prepared meals. This matter is not urgent. Chief Engineer Zhou can think about it slowly. In addition to discussing with the 45 Research Institute of the Ministry of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering, Dongxin Semiconductor also needs to make an agreement with the Ministry of Mechanical and Electrical Engineering and the Electronics Department!”
It’s okay not to say this. After hearing this, Zhou Shi and others are even more impatient. They have been waiting for nine years. The gap with foreign lithography machines has expanded from a thousand nanometer process to 250 nanometers. If foreign lithography machines enter the 100 nanometer process, then they think There is no need to chase him, because it is impossible to catch him!
Right now, every minute is crucial to Zhou Shi and the others. How can they relax? If this is delayed, it will be delayed for another eight or ten years. No one can say for sure. Age can no longer afford to gamble. This is the last golden period for R&D personnel. When the old eyes are dim, it will be too late.
“We are willing to join Dongxin Semiconductor!”
Seeing that Li Dongling was about to go out, Zhou Shi took them to Dongxin Semiconductor’s restaurant for dinner, and finally shouted out at the last moment.
"No matter what the negotiation between Dongxin Semiconductor and 45 Research Institute is, we and the R&D personnel of the lithography machine research group are willing to join Dongxin Semiconductor!"
"But Mr. Li, You also need to promise me two things, otherwise, I will take the train back to Research Institute 45 today!" Zhou Shi said to Li Dongling with a firm gaze.
"Please tell me!"
"The first thing is that Tanglin Hi-Tech must really support us in developing photolithography machines. This research and development may be very expensive, with an investment of tens of millions!"
< br>Zhou Shi said that in his opinion, the investment of tens of millions is already quite exaggerated. Before the lithography machine entered 100 nanometers, the research and development was actually not that exaggerated.
Twenty years ago, in the 1970s, semiconductor manufacturers such as Intel did not purchase lithography machines. They could make lithography machines by hand using parts. In the past 20 years, lithography machines have It's getting more and more expensive.
In the past ten years, domestic lithography machines have not been researched and developed not because the technology cannot keep up. It is purely because of funding and the market. There is no money for research and development of lithography machines. In addition, there are no buyers after the research and development. Foreign lithography machines are cheaper than domestic ones, and buying chips is cheaper than manufacturing chips. If they cannot be sold, no one will play with them.
"The first one, I agree!" Li Dongling said directly, let alone 10 million, the investment in research and development of this thing in the previous life was calculated in units of 100 million. If it really costs 10 million, Zhou Shi and the others can make Dongxin Semiconductor develop it. If you use your own lithography machine to catch up with the process to 450 nanometers, you will definitely make a lot of money.
In the previous life until 1999, Nikon used to export 450nm lithography machines. It can be seen that few companies in the world, including China, could develop this thing. "The second clause..."
When talking about the second condition, Zhou Shi felt a little hot. He also knew that the second condition was a bit excessive, but After coming out of the 45 Research Institute, he really has no emotion at all for the unit he has treated for decades, which is really difficult. If he has enough to eat and his old friends and associates from the past are eating cornbread, he will really feel guilty in his conscience.
“Can the 45 Research Institute be included in Dongxin Semiconductor’s lithography machine cooperation unit and invest part of the funds in the 45 Research Institute to help Dongxin Semiconductor develop silicon wafers, precision workbenches and other products?”< br>
"Don't worry, the technical level of Research Institute 45 is there. It's just that the funding was not enough in the past and the experimental equipment was poor. As long as there is funding, we can definitely produce results."
Li Dongling looked at Zhou Shi and thought for a moment. , and finally nodded, "As long as they can develop things, Dongxin Semiconductor will invest money in them!"
The semiconductor industry is a complex industrial chain, from raw materials to lithography machines to chip design, Production, electronic control software, optical systems, etc. require at least four to five hundred companies.
If Dongxin Semiconductor fights alone, I am afraid it will be too tiring and it will take an unknown amount of time. If it can find helpers, its chances of winning will be higher.
If Dongxin Semiconductor can establish its own industrial chain system like Samsung in its previous life and support and cultivate companies such as Yangtze Memory, Weill, AMEC, Sanan Optoelectronics, etc., then Dongling Hi-Tech will When competing with Samsung, Nikon, ASML, Intel and other companies, it is no longer a one-man battle, but a group of Dongxin Semiconductors. Or to put it another way, Dongxin Semiconductor leads a group of subordinates and fights fairly and equitably with the opponent. The duel was a group fight!
45 Research Institute may be a start. If it can really be supported, it will be worth it even if Dongxin Semiconductor spends more money.
"We will call the engineers from the lithography machine research group to come over tomorrow to start the research and development of a new generation of lithography machine. We have been delayed for too long and cannot delay any longer!"
When Zhou Shi heard Li Dongling's two items, he agreed. His face suddenly showed joy, and he immediately said to Li Dongling that they were not planning to go back and were ready to start research and development immediately. Many of the equipment and even computers at Dongxin Semiconductor, etc., They all need to be familiar with it.
When Li Dongling heard this, he couldn't laugh or cry. He pulled Zhou Shi and the others towards the restaurant, "It's more important to eat first. Besides, the salary has not been discussed with you yet..."
“There’s no rush,” said Zhang Anshi, “If we don’t develop something, we won’t feel at ease with Dongxin Semiconductor’s salary.”
No matter what Zhou Shi, Zhang Anshi, and Wang Xia said, Li Dongling still made the treatment and salary of Dongling Semiconductor R&D personnel the same as those in Dongling High-tech Technology Department. Chen Tao's salary is equal to more than 7,000 yuan per month. Adding bonuses, year-end bonuses, etc., Zhou Shi's annual salary at Dongxin Semiconductor exceeds 100,000 yuan, which is about 12,500 US dollars!
Such a price is already very high in China. When Zhou Shi and others heard about such a salary, they were shocked and waved their hands to refuse, "This is not appropriate!"
< br>The salaries of several of them combined are equivalent to several months of salary payment by 45 Research Institute.
“As the chief engineer of Dongxin Semiconductor, Mr. Zhou, as well as Workers Wang and Zhang, you deserve such salary. If you can’t get the highest salary in the industry, how can Dongxin Semiconductor attract people in the future? More young and even top overseas engineers come to Dongxin?”
Li Dongling pushed several large dishes of pork elbow, beef, chicken, duck, fish and other dishes in front of Zhou Shi and others, regardless of the domestic situation. Regarding the treatment in the semiconductor industry, Dongxin needs to be at the top of the industry and even become a benchmark, allowing more industry geniuses to join Dongxin Semiconductor.
If Zhou Shi, the chief engineer of Dongxin Semiconductor, has a salary of only more than 200 yuan, then which young man would still be willing to join this industry? He cannot let the horse run and not let him eat grass, then he is not being a hooligan!
With Zhou Shi’s statement, no matter what the negotiation between Dongxin Semiconductor and 45 Research Institute is, Dongxin Semiconductor’s stall is considered to be set up. This is a just-in-case move. It may be short-term. It may not be used internally, and the results may not come until three or five years, but just like mushroom bombs, whether this thing is available or not is completely different from whether it is used!
After Zhou Shi and the others arrived, the lithography machine engineers from the 45 Research Institute also rushed over one after another. Many people even came over directly without reporting to the 45 Research Institute after hearing about Zhou Shi’s treatment. Yes, from now on Dongxin Semiconductor will have to argue with 45 Research Institute, but Dongxin Semiconductor's lithography machine department is still running.
Li Dongling also waited for the arrival of another person at noon the next day.
(End of this chapter)