Chapter 339 The lion opens its mouth
“Dad, this news is not a particularly important secret.”
“Our country’s military aviation power is seriously insufficient in plateau areas and faces severe challenges.”< br>
“In particular, the supply problem at border posts has become increasingly prominent.”
“The traditional transportation method of people and horses is inefficient and has obvious seasonal restrictions, which restricts the smooth execution of border patrols and first aid missions.”
"To solve this problem, we urgently need a helicopter that can operate stably in plateau areas."
"During the rigorous bidding process, internationally renowned manufacturers such as Sikorsky, Bell and Eurocopter Participate in the bidding.”
“After multiple comparisons and tests, Sikorsky’s Black Hawk helicopter stands out as a particularly technologically advanced product that matches ours. Matching the country's needs."
"This helicopter has a maximum take-off weight of 9,185 kilograms, a transit range of more than 500 kilometers, and has strong transportation capabilities and combat performance."
"But we. These helicopters introduced are improved civilian versions, equipped with new engines and enhanced high-altitude performance, but cannot carry weapons.”
"This month Poly Technology will officially sign a purchase contract with Sikorsky of the United States on behalf of China to purchase 24 aircraft at one time."
In front of his father-in-law, Jiang Hui naturally does not need to hide it. .
Let him know more information and make more accurate judgments when dealing with some things.
"Poly Technology came forward to operate it?"
When Zhu Jiansheng heard Jiang Hui tell all the specific information, he naturally knew that the actual situation of this matter was probably Jiang Hui. That's what he said.
Especially Poly Technology, as an important unit of the military industry system, Zhu Jiansheng naturally heard about it.
Although it was only officially established last year, it is a window company established by China to solve the needs of import and export of military equipment.
Many factories in the Fifth Machinery Department are counting on Poly Technology to help them export their products overseas.
The relevant departments hope that huge profits can help bring back some of the world's advanced military equipment.
According to the information Zhu Jiansheng learned, Poly Technology has a very comprehensive business in military trade, including the import and export of various defense equipment such as land, sea and air equipment, missiles, and electronic equipment, police explosion-proof equipment, and military logistics supplies qualifications.
"Yes, if the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory really wants to discuss the export of intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicles and technology with the United States this time, and if it introduces Black Hawk technical data from the United States, it will most likely also need Poly Technology Help over there.”
Jiang Hui has a deeper understanding of Poly Technology than many people.
Many people only know that Poly is engaged in real estate. In fact, military industry and trade is the industry where they started.
The advanced fighter jets such as the SU-27 that China introduced from the Polar Bears in later generations were all brought back with the help of Poly.
Even the S-300 air defense missile system at the back is operated by Poly.
So it’s okay to be able to work with each other.
"If the Black Hawk helicopter is really as good as you say, then it would be worthwhile to exchange their technology for the technology of the intercontinental missile launch vehicle."
Zhu Jiansheng It’s not like he can’t tell the difference between seriousness and seriousness.
As Jiang Hui said just now, the United States' current military equipment is much stronger than that of China. Even if the technology of the intercontinental missile launch vehicle is transferred to the other party, it will not affect the current situation.
As for whether it will be affected by China's own use of this launcher after it is sold, it actually doesn't matter much.
After all, the launch vehicle is just a vehicle, and the key depends on the intercontinental ballistic missile developed by the Seventh Machinery Department.
“You can find an opportunity to communicate with the person in charge of the operating department. They should know the performance of the Black Hawk helicopter best.”
“This time the United States sold us a civilian version of the Blackhawk, we can also ask for them Transfer technology for military products. "
"Anyway, let's set the conditions first, make them harsh at the beginning, and give the other party room to bargain later."
Jiang When Hui said this, Zhu Jiansheng couldn't help but nodded.
It was indeed possible to give it a try, but he quickly thought of another question.
"Xiaojiang, as far as I know, most companies in the United States are private companies. Even Sikorsky, which produces Black Hawk helicopters, is also a private company."
"If we If we use the technology of intercontinental strategic missile launchers to exchange technology with the other party, because of this launcher The technology of shooting cars is not what Sikorsky wants. I guess the other party is not interested?”
“Will this affect our future cooperation?”
The systems of the United States and China? It's different. Zhu Jiansheng, who has been to the United States for inspection, naturally has a deeper understanding of this.
When such a large transaction amount is involved, it will be much more difficult to negotiate if the interests of the parties are different.
Unlike China, although the related parties of various technologies are different, our companies are state-owned enterprises, and they must obey the orders of their superiors and have an overall view.
"This problem is not a big problem. Everything has value. Companies in the United States that need our launch vehicle technology will pay us the relevant amount."
"We pay The relevant technology transfer fee will be paid to Sikorsky, but the intermediate process requires coordination by the U.S. Embassy and relevant departments. "
As long as there is enough interest, Jiang Hui is not worried that this matter will not be settled in the middle.
If it really can't be done, it means that the interests of all parties have not reached consensus.
At that time it was nothing more than how to make appropriate concessions during negotiations.
After communicating with Jiang Hui, Zhu Jiansheng took action quickly.
The Ligong Special Vehicle Factory has now delivered 12 prototype vehicles to the Seventh Machinery Department, but it is unknown whether there will be any subsequent orders and how many orders there will be.
The production cost of the prototype was paid by the Seventh Machinery Department.
But that is really the production cost. If the initial R&D investment is also included, the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory basically makes no money.
Even if there are no new orders in the future, based on the current payment from the Seventh Machinery Department, the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory will still be losing money.
At this time, cooperation with the United States is more meaningful for the Ligong Special Vehicle Factory from an economic point of view.
Not to mention the special significance of earning foreign exchange from exports, the high-profit export selling price of military products alone allows the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory to invest more R&D resources in developing more technologically advanced missile launch vehicles and other products.
The current first-generation 12-axis launch vehicle has a relatively short development time, and some of China’s basic material technologies still need to be improved.
Therefore, the overall performance has not reached the level that Jiang Hui initially communicated with Zhu Jiansheng, and it can be further improved in the future. Besides, the development of intercontinental ballistic missiles at the Seventh Aircraft Department is definitely making continuous progress, and the launch vehicle will definitely need to make some adjustments by then.
When Zhu Jiansheng reported his reorganized plan to Hu Yong, the head of the Fifth Machinery Department, Hu Yong immediately made up his mind to promote the implementation of the plan.
By then, this cooperation will definitely become a classic case in the Chinese military industry market.
Hu Yong in particular is very aware that there is still a huge gap between the domestic aviation industry and the world's advanced level.
If this opportunity can be used to bridge the gap in the helicopter field, the significance will be huge.
China has a vast territory, and the transportation conditions in many places are not very good now.
Even in another twenty or thirty years, the traffic conditions in some remote areas will not be particularly good.
At this time, the demand for helicopters is very huge.
He feels that if China can master the technology of Black Hawk helicopters, its domestic demand alone will be thousands of them in the future.
If a helicopter of this magnitude needs to be imported from overseas, the foreign exchange involved would be too exaggerated and absolutely impossible to accept.
So it is still worthwhile to exchange the intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle technology of the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory for the Black Hawk helicopter technology, and take this opportunity to sell a batch of launch vehicles to the United States at a high price.
The United States, which has been suppressed by polar bears for several years, is now very active in expanding and improving its strategic deterrence.
At this time, the United States is also wealthy and needs this kind of intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle the most.
If in a few years, after they realize the weakness of the polar bear, or even after the polar bear disintegrates, this kind of launch vehicle will not be so significant to the United States.
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"Smith, so China has not directly refused to sell intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicles?"
Smith quickly received feedback from relevant Chinese departments, which made him get the news Woodcock was quite excited.
If this thing is done, it will definitely be something worth writing about.
Especially during a period when polar bears are facing extreme pressure, the meaning of this matter is even more different.
"Yes, China did not refuse to discuss this topic. They just kept emphasizing the importance of this product and the various difficulties encountered in the research and development process."
"Then they asked us to purchase 50 yuan at a time. He has to exchange a complete set of technical data and equipment for the military version of the Black Hawk helicopter before he is willing to transfer the technology of this launch vehicle to us."
Smith does not care about China's conditions now. That is something that relevant domestic departments and companies need to consider.
What he has to do is let both parties put forward conditions, and then negotiate to find a satisfactory solution.
“Considering the strategic significance of the intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle, it makes sense that they want to use it to replace the technical data of the military version of the Black Hawk helicopter.”
“But if you want to exchange it together with the equipment for producing Black Hawk helicopters, the value is a bit unequal.”
“Although I don’t know the investment amount of the Black Hawk helicopter production line equipment, but I think about it. The value of these equipment is estimated to be several hundred million US dollars, and it is not surprising that it even exceeds 1 billion US dollars of investment."
Woodcock quickly weighed the conditions on China's side, and it was obvious that it was. A bit like a lion with its mouth wide open.
"It is indeed a bit unequal. According to China's thinking, the purchase of 50 finished vehicles will also be purchased at a high price of 20 million U.S. dollars each, which is directly a purchase amount of 1 billion U.S. dollars. It is estimated that the Pentagon will not approve such a high procurement budget. "
Smith followed Woodcock's words and added his own point of view.
According to the current plan, the Chinese side is equivalent to asking the American side to exchange tools and technologies worth about 2 billion US dollars for the intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle from the Polytechnic Special Vehicle Factory.
This is definitely expensive.
After all, the United States is not a big foodie. It is willing to spend any amount of money for strategic weapons.
“Let’s feed back the plan first and see how the Pentagon views this matter.”
Woodcock thought about it for a while and felt that now is not the time to negotiate terms. Let the domestic After discussing it, we will look at the next steps.
"We really need to let them have a good discussion, otherwise just the distribution of interests between Sikorsky and United Defense Corporation will be a big problem."
During this time, Smith has expressed concern about Black Hawk helicopters and We have done some research on the situation of the missile launch vehicle.
On the American side, the Black Hawk helicopter is produced by Sikorsky, a company created by immigrants from descendants of polar bear people.
In the entire American military industry market, Sikorsky is a relatively special company and currently does not belong to any consortium.
As for missile launch vehicles, products such as missile launch vehicles were produced by United Defense Corporation in the past. If the technology of intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicles is to be introduced back this time, there is a high probability that it will be handed over to United Defense Corporation. .
At this time, it depends on the ideas of Sikorsky and United Defense Corporation.
Only when this plan is beneficial to both companies can it be ultimately successful.
Otherwise, if one company is dissatisfied, it will be difficult to finalize the plan.
“I will contact you directly regarding this matter of communication with the country. You don’t need to worry about it yet.”
Woodcock has been responsible for coordinating the joint assistance between the United States and China in recent years. There are also many contacts with relevant departments such as the Pentagon.
He feels that if this matter is handled in a normal way, there will definitely be a long period of wrangling in the end, and it may not be able to satisfy all parties.
So it is necessary to adopt some technical solutions.
The most critical link is for all parties to work together to obtain sufficient financial support from relevant departments.
For example, if the relevant departments in the United States are willing to purchase intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicles from United Defense Corporation for US$30 million or even US$5,000 each, then talk to China and let them Sold to United Defense Corporation for $10 million.
It will be easier if there are many operations in the middle.
As long as the needs of all parties are fully met, many things will be easier to handle.
After all, the particularity of this kind of weaponry cannot be compared with any other project.
As long as the process is correct!
What he has to do now is to get people from various departments to actively implement it.
(End of this chapter)