Chapter 351 Technical Confidence
Judging from the current level of China's aviation industry, even if it obtains products like the Su-27 or F-15 fighter jets, it will be impossible to successfully imitate them in the next five years.
Even according to the judgment of the polar bears and Americans, even if China is given ten years, it will not be able to imitate the same product.
The threshold for the aviation industry is very high, especially aviation engines, which are known as the "Crown of Industry". The world's most advanced aviation engines cannot be easily produced by China today.
The Spey engine developed by Rolls-Royce in the 1960s has been introduced to China for more than ten years, and it is still not understood, let alone the one used on the Su-27 or F-15 fighter jets. Advanced aviation engines.
Coupled with a series of other various parts, special materials and processing techniques, in fact, neither the United States nor the Polar Bears are very worried that the aircraft will bring them great risks after being sold to China.
The performance of these fighter jets is much clearer to them than China.
In order for these fighter jets to operate normally, the various spare parts required are also provided by the other party.
Even the pilots need assistance in training.
So neither the United States nor the Polar Bears seem to have any particular pressure to sell aircraft to China.
In this regard, the two world giants at this stage are still very confident.
"If you tell me carefully, I will report to the leaders in the department tomorrow and ask the leaders to communicate with the Third Machinery Department, and then report to the superior department to give the polar bear an official feedback.”
After thinking clearly about the cause and effect of the matter, Zhu Jiansheng suddenly became positive.
Although the Ligong Special Vehicle Factory may not be able to obtain particularly large benefits through this transaction, for the Three Machinery Department, it will benefit endlessly.
Zhu Jiansheng has a relatively high position for his future. He may not always work in a university under the Fifth Machinery Department, or even work in the Fifth Machinery Department all the time.
Therefore, this kind of thing that is good for China, even if it sacrifices the interests of the Ligong Special Vehicle Factory to a certain extent, is acceptable.
"This matter must be viewed from several dimensions."
My father-in-law listened to his suggestions, so Jiang Hui naturally wanted to explain it carefully.
If this incredible proposal is successfully implemented, it will definitely be a great credit to Zhu Jiansheng.
Although the current Su-27 still has various problems, it is not particularly mature.
Even if China exchanges a batch of Su-27s, its strength will not change significantly in a short period of time.
However, this fighter jet was obtained seven or eight years earlier than the same period in history, and related imitation and research work can be started in advance.
After thoroughly understanding the technology of this aircraft, we can completely design China's own fighter jet based on it.
The two important fighter jets of later generations, the J-11 and the J-16, are closely related to the Su-27. They can be said to be extended products or upgrades developed on the basis of the Su-27. product.
Its advanced aerodynamic layout is of great benefit to the development of China's aviation industry.
It is naturally best to master it early.
And China’s aviation industry itself is following the path of the polar bear. It will naturally be easier to study and learn.
The most important thing is that if you take this opportunity to complete this transaction directly without spending foreign exchange, the Three Machinery Department is definitely very active, and the relevant user departments are Needless to say.
“First, we must first be fully aware of the technological advancement of our 12-axis intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle, and the impact it will have on polar bears after the United States masters this technology..."< br>
“Second, if the United States is willing to contact us to discuss the sale of F-15 and F-16, it must be continuously instilled in the polar bears, and it must also be realized that the advanced fighter aircraft in the polar bears are not only the Su- 27. ”
"Third, in the face of the situation where China and the United States are getting closer and closer, the Polar Bear naturally hopes to destroy this situation through certain means. Selling a very advanced third-generation fighter jet such as the Su-27 can obviously play a role. "
"And..."
Jiang Hui spent more than an hour speaking out his thoughts.
He also assisted Zhu Jiansheng in organizing some relevant viewpoints into a simple document.
The next day, Zhu Jiansheng took the documents directly to the Fifth Machinery Department to report to Hu Yong.
The Fifth Aircraft Department also attached great importance to Zhu Jiansheng's report. They quickly realized the benefits of this transaction to China's aviation industry, so they also took active action and asked Zhu Jiansheng to specifically communicate with the Three Aircraft Department.
"Principal Zhu, your proposal is really great."
"I have heard a lot of information about the polar bear Su-27 before."< br>
“Since 1972, Polar Bear has been designing this advanced fighter aircraft, which features integrated aerodynamic fabric The design not only improves the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft, but also increases the space of the fuel tank and equipment compartment. "
"In order to improve the aircraft's high angle of attack performance, the Su-27's wings use curved wing tips. And installed wing root strips; however, this integrated plan was opposed by most experts at the time and was on the verge of death. ”
"In the past ten years, the Sukhoi Design Bureau has made various design improvements, and finally the Su-27 was successfully finalized."
"If we can make the polar bear just finalized The significance of replacing advanced fighter jets is absolutely huge "
"To a certain extent, our country's aviation modernization work has officially begun."
As the deputy chief engineer in charge of the fighter project, Shen Yanhuan represents the three aircraft. The department had an in-depth exchange with Zhu Jiansheng.
He definitely supports this deal.
Of course, when Zhu Jiansheng came here, he definitely couldn't just think about the Ministry of Machinery and Machinery. He also had to consider the interests of Capital University of Technology.
Whether it is in spacecraft design or missile technology research, Capital Institute of Technology has accumulated a certain amount of experience, but compared with universities such as Capital Aviation University and the National University of Defense Technology, there is still a gap.
Shen Yanhuan agreed that in the future, the Ministry of Civil Engineering and Construction would also have full exchanges with the Capital Institute of Technology, and could even directly allocate one or two affiliated research institutes that lack funds to the Capital Institute of Technology, so that Zhu Jiansheng could We can start up the aircraft design department.
If it finally works out, it will definitely be a great thing.
The Fifth Aircraft Department and the Third Aircraft Department unified their opinions, and then invited the Seventh Aircraft Department and the fighter units to report to their superiors, and the plan was naturally easily approved.
At the Polar Bear Embassy, Andre didn't have to wait long to get feedback from China.
"Sergeyev, China hopes that we will use Su-27 fighter jets to replace intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicles, 10 fighter jets for 10 launch vehicles. Do you think this plan is feasible?"
< br>As an ambassador, Andre knows a lot of information.
Su-27 has been a key project for more than ten years, and he knows a lot about it.
He didn't know the specific technical parameter information, but he knew the advanced nature of this fighter jet.
In this case, whether the plan proposed by China is suitable for reporting to the country, he needs to weigh the pros and cons first.
Otherwise, if a plan that is very detrimental to polar bears is reported back, the people in the country will be very disappointed with Andre. In the past two years, the two bosses of the Polar Bears have died one after another, and the situation itself is a bit special. Naturally, Andre does not want to leave a bad impression on the country at such a special time.
Don’t work in the wrong direction, or you’ll be in trouble.
“The technology of China’s launch vehicle is very advanced in the world.”
"Judging from the transactions between China and the United States, the value of these missile launch vehicles is also very high, and the selling price is very expensive."
"They proposed to exchange one launch vehicle for one aircraft, so they should still consider both. It contains many aspects and seems to be a relatively fair proposal.”
Sergeyev quickly gave a reference opinion based on the information he knew.
Sometimes you have to be responsible for speaking casually, but sometimes when the leader asks you something and you hide it, then don't think about making progress.
To put it mildly, sometimes the leader doesn’t know, but someone needs someone to say what he wants to say.
If you don't say anything, aren't you trying to get into trouble with your leader?
“What you said makes sense. The reply from China is obviously well thought out.”
“We will report this plan to the country first and see if we can convince the relevant departments. "
Andrew was relieved when he heard Sergeyev's straightforward opinion.
The other party is a talent that is appreciated by big bosses in the country. Winning him to promote this project together will save a lot of trouble.
"The best thing is to have the intercontinental ballistic missile usage department communicate with the people from the Sukhoi Design Bureau, so that the Sukhoi Design Bureau can be persuaded to agree to this exchange to the greatest extent."
"Otherwise If the other party does not agree, the relevant departments will probably delay making a decision in order to avoid taking responsibility.”
Although Sergeyev is not old, he has strict rules and regulations for various domestic departments. The doorway is very clear.
If you want to let people make judgments, it is best not to let them take too many risks. Only in this way will it be easier to achieve breakthrough progress.
Andrew listened to the advice and quickly implemented all these suggestions.
It didn't take long for many departments within Polar Bear to formally discuss this plan.
As the designer of the aircraft, the attitude of the Sukhoi Design Bureau is naturally the most concerned.
If they object strongly, there will be more obstacles in this matter.
“Simonov, China wants to introduce Su-27 from us, and the relevant departments seem to be a little interested. Do you think there will be any impact on selling such an advanced fighter to China? ”
As the chief designer of the Sukhoi Design Bureau, Ivanov is now in high spirits.
After more than ten years of hard work, their design bureau finally came up with an epoch-making fighter product, which in one fell swoop reversed Polar Bear's unfavorable situation in the third-generation fighter.
“This fighter jet has only been put into mass production recently, and the quantity of domestic equipment is not very large. If it is exported to China at this time, many of its secrets may not be kept.”
“Given China’s current close relationship with the United States, Department, many performance indicators of this aircraft are expected to be known to people in the United States soon.”
As the deputy chief designer, Simonov was responsible for the flight test and many other testing aspects of this aircraft. The work is very clear about the various performances of the aircraft.
It is precisely because of knowing these properties, combined with the information provided by the Polar Bear Intelligence Department, that he knows that the fighter jet designed by his design bureau is more advanced than the American F-15.
To put it bluntly, it is the most technologically advanced among the mass-produced third-generation fighter jets of this era.
At least that’s what Simonov thinks.
“If you are only worried about this, I have a different point of view.”
“China has indeed become very close to the United States in recent years, and the two sides are like allies. "
"But I think both the United States and China know that the relationship between them cannot always be so good."
"The national conditions and systems of the two sides are completely different. Now it is because both the United States and China are under tremendous pressure from us that the two sides have put aside their past prejudices and come together."
"Once we follow If the relationship between China and Xia changes, this situation will change immediately.”
“ Therefore, after China really obtains the aircraft from us, it is impossible to proactively tell the United States the relevant performance, and will even do everything possible to prevent the United States from learning this information. "
Ivanov explained, Simonov couldn't help but nodded, knowing that what he had just considered was indeed insufficient.
He is an engineer, and what he is best at is technology. In fact, he is not very good at things involving the international situation.
"If you don't consider the impact of this aspect, then I have no special worries about this transaction."
"Anyway, with China's current technology, even if it obtains a batch of fighter jets, in the next ten years, It’s impossible for anyone to figure it out.”
“And we went through it for more than ten years. The improved models launched after years of continuous improvement and perfection will definitely have more advanced performance. We are not afraid of the pressure that the few aircraft sold to China will bring to us. "
Simonov said from the perspective of technology. From the perspective of analyzing the possible impact of this transaction on the polar bears.
He is very confident in the products he designs, and is obviously not afraid that China will copy the aircraft after it gets it.
"That's true. China's current J-7 and J-8 products are not products of the same era as the Su-27, let alone just copying the aircraft."
"Even if we put the full set Even if the technical drawings are sold to each other, they will not be successfully produced within ten years.”
Obviously, Ivanov and Simonov have common views on technology.
To a certain extent, this statement is not wrong.
Producing an advanced fighter jet is also a great test of the capabilities of a country's industrial system. It cannot be produced by simply giving you technical information.
The more high-end the product, the more so.
“So if the relevant departments feel that China’s 12-axis intercontinental ballistic missile launch vehicle is really that important to us, we have no need to oppose this deal.”
“After all, Americans We already have China’s launch vehicle technology. If we fall behind, the relevant departments will indeed be under pressure.”
With this discussion between Simonov and Ivanov, Polar Bear has internal concerns about this cooperation. His attitude soon became clear.
Of course, it involves such an important cooperation, and the relationship between the two parties is still in a relatively sensitive period, so it will definitely take some time for it to really come to fruition.
Even if a cooperation agreement is formally signed, it will definitely take until next year to complete the delivery of fighter jets.
(End of this chapter)