After visiting Zhongwei Company, Wang Donglai didn't say anything, but said goodbye to Yin Zhiyao directly and took Chen Lingyue to SMIC.
But before leaving, Wang Donglai said something to Yin Zhiyao.
When they were talking, only Wang Donglai and Yin Zhiyao were present, so even Chen Lingyue didn't know what Wang Donglai said, but he noticed that Yin Zhiyao had a strange expression when he sent Wang Donglai away.
Xinsheng Semiconductor.
Like Zhongwei's Yin Zhiyao, Zhang Rujing was also waiting for Wang Donglai at the door of the company.
Wearing glasses, although he looks a bit old, his expression is quite energetic.
Although they had only met once, Zhang Rujing and Wang Donglai were far from good friends.
However, Wang Donglai’s thoughts and opinions on the semiconductor industry still made Zhang Rujing, the boss, place Wang Donglai in a special position in his heart.
Decades of life have passed by in a hurry, and Zhang Rujing believes in his ability to see people.
He may not really think that Wang Donglai will succeed, but he does not doubt that Wang Donglai is deceiving.
Even just for this vague possibility, Zhang Rujing is willing to provide as much support as he can.
After the meeting, after a brief exchange of greetings, Zhang Rujing took Wang Donglai to visit.
The two of them had already talked a lot the last time they met.
In this meeting, Wang Donglai did not clearly state the purpose of his visit, and Zhang Rujing did not ask.
Bringing Wang Dong to visit the company is a proper procedure.
Putting on dust-free clothes, under the leadership of Zhang Rujing, we came to the core production workshop of Xinsheng Semiconductor Company.
The reputation of a powerhouse in infrastructure construction is not for nothing.
It goes without saying how much support the city has for Zhang Rujing.
Green light all the way.
In the newly built production workshop, Zhang Rujing looked quite excited.
And Wang Donglai can also understand Zhang Rujing's excitement. With the support of Magic City, Xinsheng Semiconductor has a high starting point, so all equipment has become more advanced.
"Professor Wang, is your company planning to develop technology and then become a supplier and collect patent fees by the way, or is it planning to prepare a one-stop service that involves up and down the industrial chain, including factory construction, production, and sales?"
Zhang Rujing asked very directly.
Wang Donglai didn't take it seriously and said with a smile: "I used to prepare for the involvement of a one-stop whole industry chain, but now my thoughts have changed a little bit."
"Oh. , what is the change? ”
Zhang Rujing asked Wang Donglai curiously.
“Before, I thought about the involvement of the entire industry chain, so that we can gain more profits, and at the same time, we can better feed the country and have higher and more autonomy.”
"This is a good idea, and it would be really good if it could be done. There are many advantages.”
“But the only disadvantage is that it is really difficult to do this.”
“And in the process. , will also be affected by unexpected off-site factors.”
"I believe Mr. Zhang probably knows the news about Galaxy Technology's chip supplier Samsung now, right?"
"The factory is on fire. This kind of poor excuse can be used."
"I'm going too far, I've said a bit too much..."
Wang Donglai didn't finish speaking and stopped mid-sentence.
Zhang Rujing didn't think much and just followed Wang Donglai's words.
"This is the result of our lagging behind. If we had the same product, no, not even the same grade, as long as we had such a product, they would not be so arrogant, let alone such outrageous things happen. "
"It's just a pity that we don't have it, so we can only ask them."
"Professor Wang, this is not the first time this has happened. It won't be the last time. When our country's semiconductor industry catches up with the level of developed countries in the world, then it will be a day when we can truly feel proud."
"But, this is the day. I don’t know when it will appear one day!”
Zhang Rujing has been in the industry for so many years and knows much more than Wang Donglai.
When he mentioned it, his tone was full of anger and helplessness.
Because Xinsheng Semiconductor Company is currently only in the first phase of construction, there are not many places to visit.
But even so, Wang Donglai really saw the unique charm of the modern technological pearl.
Every process is the pinnacle of contemporary technology.
After the visit, Wang Donglai and Zhang Rujing came to the office.
"Professor Wang, what are you doing here this time?"
After sitting down, Zhang Rujing asked straight to the point.
Wang Donglai was a little surprised by this cheerfulness, but he didn't expect Zhang Rujing to take the initiative to ask.
Wang Donglai knows very well what this means.
If Zhang Rujing didn't really think highly of himself, he wouldn't have to take the initiative to ask, and it seemed like a simple inquiry, but it actually revealed Zhang Rujing's goodwill.
If Wang Donglai came to visit this time and really needed Zhang Rujing's help for something, Wang Donglai had no doubt that Zhang Rujing would agree.
You know, this is only the second time the two have met.
“Huh!”
Wang Donglai exhaled a long breath, with a hint of determination in his eyes.
"Mr. Zhang, I believe you should also know that the Galaxy Technology Company I founded has projects such as artificial intelligence and drones, and the requirements for chips are relatively high and many."
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"This time the Samsung factory fire incident also changed my previous concept."
"Since Samsung cannot provide chips, I can only find another manufacturer. TJD and Qualcomm are both options, but I don’t want to choose these manufacturers, and the reason is very simple. I can’t trust them, and I prefer to leave it to major domestic manufacturers.”< br>
“If Mr. Zhang is still here, I will definitely choose SMIC without any hesitation. However, since Mr. Zhang is not here, I have no reason to choose SMIC.”< br>
Hearing what Wang Donglai said, Zhang Rujing acted very calmly and did not lose his mind because of Wang Donglai's praise.
“I’m more curious about the state of your company’s artificial intelligence and drone technology. Can Professor Wang introduce it to me?”
Zhang Rujing did not react to Wang Donglai's exaggeration. Instead, he asked about the development of artificial intelligence technology and drones, as well as the demand for chips.
Wang Donglai felt calm. Although Zhang Rujing didn't say anything else, as long as he mentioned the chip, that was enough.
Since then, the design plan of neural network, deep learning, and high intelligence, embedded with multiple modules, can achieve real-time high-definition image transmission, and autonomous obstacle avoidance functions.
The former is aimed at artificial intelligence and simply stacks computing power. This is a wrong path.
But it is impossible without advanced chips, so specially designed chips are needed to meet the demand.
Like a drone.
The civilian version was developed with inspiration from model aircraft. But the other version is different, with more R&D technology and higher requirements.
Hearing the design plan presented by Wang Dong, Zhang Rujing showed a hint of surprise on his face and glanced at Wang Donglai.
The trust Wang Donglai showed made Zhang Rujing feel strange.
It was obviously only the second time the two met, but it felt like they had known each other for a long time.
There is a feeling of friendship between gentlemen.
Putting this thought in his heart, Zhang Rujing began to recall the design plan Wang Dongli said, and at the same time, he conceived in his mind what kind of chip should be used.
The more he thought about it, the surprise on Zhang Rujing’s face became more obvious.
After being silent for a while, Zhang Rujing said with some disappointment: "Professor Wang, if it is your request, it is probably impossible to meet it with the current design and production capacity of SMIC."
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"As for other domestic manufacturers, according to my understanding, it is probably difficult too!"
"If you don't want to be affected by foreign capital like Samsung, I recommend you choose TJD. This is the most suitable choice. "
When he mentioned TJD, Zhang Rujing's tone was normal and there was no other change.
However, Wang Donglai could hear the complexity in Zhang Rujing's tone.
Although Wang Donglai was a little surprised by Zhang Rujing's kindness, after thinking about it carefully, he felt that it was expected.
However, in response to Zhang Rujing's suggestion, Wang Donglai shook his head and said: "Mr. Zhang, this is not why I came to you."
"No matter how good TJD is, it is not as good as SMIC in mainland China." Okay, and what I want is to see more advanced technologies appear in the mainland."
Zhang Rujing asked directly. Said: "So, what do you need me to help you with?"
"Mr. Zhang, I have an idea, I hope you can help me with the details!"
"Since domestic manufacturers have strong chip design capabilities, And the lack of process capabilities, can we use more advanced packaging technology to make up for it? ”
Wang Donglai looked at Zhang Rujing and asked this question.
“This is naturally no problem. You must be well aware of the production steps in the semiconductor industry. It is an overall process, not a separate work. It involves all aspects, and design and manufacturing process account for a part. Factors, but if the packaging technology is more advanced, it can actually make up for the shortcomings of design and process."
"It's just..."
Speaking of which, Zhang Rujing didn't understand what Wang Donglai was thinking. .
After hesitating for a moment, he still said: "Theoretically there is no problem, but this is just a theory after all. If you want to overtake in packaging technology around the corner, then the packaging technology must not be advanced at all. You have to be much better to make up for the gap.”
"If you want to do this, to be honest, I'm not very optimistic about it!"
It can be said that Zhang Rujing's rejection and disapproval were also expected by Wang Donglai.
When he asked this question, he knew that Zhang Rujing would say this.
However, Wang Donglai has already made up his mind, so naturally he will not be affected.
"Mr. Zhang, since the theory can be done, then the next thing is very simple. I wonder if Mr. Zhang is willing to work with me to complete this matter."
"Actually, I thought about inviting Mr. Zhang last time, but I didn't dare to ask."
Zhang Rujing laughed softly and asked in a very calm tone: "Things that can be realized in theory, Professor Wang is also a scientific researcher and should know how difficult it is to implement it in practice.”
“If you want to use advanced packaging technology to make up for the deficiencies in design and process, The requirements for advanced packaging technology are very high, even to the extreme. "
"Is Professor Wang planning to study DIP technology, QFP/PFP technology, or PGA technology or BGA technology?"< br>
“Technology is constantly developing. Even if Professor Wang really develops it, how many years will it take?”
"What if the research and development is completed and the chip manufacturing capabilities have improved again? Should we continue the research or sit back and watch the huge R&D funds go to waste?"
"Professor Wang, you are a young man, He has many ideas, is full of energy, and is at his peak in scientific research. He may think such a thing is cool.”
“But. In addition to being a scientific researcher, you are also the CEO of a company. You should consider costs and risks. "
"So, I refuse your invitation!"
Zhang Rujing said this with sincerity. If it had been anyone else, Zhang Rujing would have left by now.
I won't waste my time and words trying to persuade.
Wang Donglai naturally understood Zhang Rujing’s kindness and good intentions.
The reason why the semiconductor industry has become the core.
It’s just that it’s so important.
From sand to chips, there are many processes in between.
From wafer to finished product, it is not just photolithography, but also needs to be packaged.
Packaging refers to the shell used to install semiconductor integrated circuit chips. It not only plays the role of placing, fixing, sealing, protecting the chip and enhancing thermal conductivity, but also serves as a bridge between the internal world of the chip and the external circuit-- The contacts on the chip are connected to the pins of the package with wires, and these pins are connected to other devices through wires on the printed circuit board.
Therefore, packaging technology is a very critical link for many integrated circuit products.
As a result, there are high requirements for packaging technology.
For example, the ratio of chip area to package area should be as close to 1:1 as possible.
The pins should be as short as possible to reduce delay, and the distance between the pins should be as far as possible to ensure that they do not interfere with each other and improve performance.
Based on heat dissipation requirements, the thinner the package, the better.
It is conceivable that the packaging technology alone has such requirements for a small chip that is no bigger than a fingernail.
As an important part of the computer, the performance of the CPU directly affects the overall performance of the computer.
The last step of the CPU manufacturing process, which is also the most critical step, is the packaging of the CPU. The same CPU using different packaging technologies will have a large gap in performance.
As a result, semiconductor giants have never stopped researching packaging technology.
If Zhang Rujing had not had a good impression of Wang Donglai, she would also know Wang Donglai's academic achievements and know that he is not the kind of person who is ignorant and incompetent.
I am afraid that when Wang Donglai first proposed to develop more advanced packaging technology to make up for the gap in design and process capabilities, Zhang Rujing was about to chase people away.
This is undoubtedly a joke and a challenge to his profession.
I will not give a detailed explanation.
Wang Donglai knew all of this.
So, after Zhang Rujing finished speaking, Wang Donglai's expression did not change much, but he still kept his smile and said: "Mr. Zhang, why don't you take a look at this document first!"
With that said, Wang Donglai took out a document and handed it to Zhang Rujing.
As soon as he saw the contents of the document for the first time, Zhang Rujing's eyes lit up and his expression became serious and focused.
He never expected that Wang Donglai would actually come up with this thing.
It's just that he doesn't have much energy to think about this issue anymore, and instead devotes himself to the contents of the file.
Because, this document is exactly...(End of Chapter)