Chapter 5021 There is a gap between each other
Li Ji looked solemn and knocked on the table lightly: "Whether it's government troops or recruiting troops, there are always pros and cons, a mixture of good and bad. It's just a navy that is trying to make a new start. If the rest of the army adopts a one-size-fits-all approach, such a huge Change may cause turmoil in the world.”
What is "reform"?
In short, it is a reform that affects vested interests and reclassifies the ownership of interests. Every reform is a declaration of war against vested interest groups, so it is full of difficulties and dangers. "Moving money is like killing parents", let alone touching people's trust. With the basic interests of passing down the world?
The Tang Dynasty was founded on the "Fubing System". Whether it was the founding generation or the Zhenguan officials, they all relied on the "Fubing System" to survive. All interests depended on this. If the foundation of the "Fubing System" was destroyed in one fell swoop, it would be tantamount to If everyone's interests are cut off, how can those people just sit back and die?
Therefore, change means blood. It means killing.
Throughout the ages, there has never been a successful revolution without bloodshed...
Fang Jun did not take this seriously: "The important task at the moment is to come to a conclusion on which one is better and which one is better, and which one is more in line with the interests of the current empire, between the 'mansion army system' and the 'recruitment system', rather than rushing to implement which one." A military system.”
Cui Dunli echoed: "The Taiwei's words are reasonable and have determined the right direction. Only then can we think about how to eliminate the bad and retain the good and overcome difficulties in the implementation process. If we hesitate to move forward just because of the visible difficulties, we may even be afraid of them." If we don’t move forward, what’s the point of our discussion here? It’s better to implement the ‘Fubing System’ to the end, and at least everyone will feel at ease.”
Li Ji shook his head and looked at Li Jing, who was silent at the side: "What is Mr. Wei's advice?"
Li Jing put down his tea cup, stroked his beard, and said slowly: "Actually, the opinions of the imperial court are very clear. Why should we set up such a 'military reform committee'? It is because the change has to be carried out. This is the consensus of both the government and the opposition, so The only difference is how to change.”
Except for local forces and military generals, everyone including His Majesty knows that the military system must be changed.
The "Fubing System" has indeed created several dynasties and has many advantages, but one of the shortcomings is that the Central Committee cannot tolerate, that is, the "Fubing System" can easily lead to a situation of "weak cadres and strong branches". The most direct The result was warlord separatism.
The three dynasties of Wei, Zhou, and Sui were directly destroyed by local armed forces. Even the Tang Dynasty has gradually shown signs of the expansion of local power. Although the attacks on the aristocratic families have suppressed this sign, if the root cause cannot be eradicated, , I'm afraid it will happen again sooner or later.
What is the root cause of the expansion of local power?
One is the aristocratic family, and the other is the "government military system."
"Fu soldiers" join the army and prepare their own ordnance, armor, and horses. They serve as soldiers in wartime and work as farmers in peacetime. Their household registration and taxes are all controlled by the local government. When they are in trouble, they even have to "borrow" from the government in order to collect weapons and equipment. War horses, in this way, will only accept the control of local officials and will not be subject to orders from the central government.
In addition, local officials are often controlled by aristocratic families, which is the prototype of warlords.
Li Ji naturally knew this, but he still had reservations: "The millions of armies in the world are all from the 'prefecture soldiers'. If they are rashly cut off from the local government, the interests of both the upper and lower levels will suffer. How can we sit back and ignore it and let the central government control it?" ? I also recognize the shortcomings of the 'Fu-bing system', but I don't agree with one-size-fits-all approach."
After a pause, he continued: "Knowing does not mean doing it. Everyone knows that it is not difficult to make the empire prosperous and prosperous times come. It is nothing more than the words 'officials govern Qingming'. But with such a simple truth, no dynasty has ever existed in the past. Can it really be done? ”
Everyone can see the shortcomings of the "fu army system", but because it involves too many interests, it is difficult to completely abolish it.
Pei Huaijie said: "The words of a great hero are used to build a country. Many things are not simply right or wrong, but whether they can be implemented. If something cannot be implemented, even if it is right, what's the point? I don't I support the abolition of the 'mansion army system', but the 'recruitment system' may not be that good. ”
Fang Junqi asked: "Who asked for your opinion?"
Pei Huaijie: "..."
Suppressing the anger in his heart, he said expressionlessly: "I am a committee member appointed by His Majesty, and I can't even speak?"
Fang Jun smiled and said: "No one said that you are not a committee member, but even if you are a committee member, what can you do? Have you ever led troops? Have you fought in a war? What are your military exploits? You sit here honestly and just listen to us. What was discussed, what was discussed, what conclusions were reached, and then reported to His Majesty verbatim, but as for giving opinions... you are not qualified."
"This is unreasonable!"
Pei Huaijie was furious and said angrily: "How can you bully me like this?"
His identity as a "specialist" was openly exposed, which made him lose face and become angry. In the past, he was just Liu Ji's spy, but now he is entrusted by His Majesty to not only play a role in the reform of the military system, but also to participate in the imperial examination. How much more does his political status increase?
A true confidant of the emperor!
But still have to suffer the humiliation of Fang Jun? !
Li Ji frowned and said dissatisfied: "Why are you yelling? No one here is bullying you, it's you who can't recognize your position. Since you are not familiar with military affairs, then listen more and learn more. Rather than pretending to understand and pretending to be ignorant.”
"..."
Just pretending to be fake? !
Pei Huaijie was furious, but under the gaze of Fang Jun and Li Ji, he had to suppress his anger.
Once this anger breaks out, there is no room for change. In this "committee", there is him but not Fang Jun and Li Ji, and there is Fang Jun and Li Ji but not him.
Will Fang Jun and Li Ji be demoted from the "committee"?
Of course it's impossible. Even His Majesty can't do this. The only one who can get out is Pei Huaijie.
But even if he is just "mingling" in the "committee", it is an extremely dazzling political achievement. Just like participating in organizing the imperial examination, it can become his resume for further progress in the future. Naturally, he is not willing to get out.
Taking a deep breath, Pei Huaijie said: "Since the Taiwei and the Yinggong are so repulsive and unable to listen to appropriate suggestions, I just don't say anything more."
Fang Jun nodded with a gentle expression: "That's right. Just wear your ears during the meeting. Keep your mouth closed. Noisy and annoying."
Pei Huaijie couldn't sit still any longer and left the table angrily.
The meeting broke up unhappy.
Li Jing stood up and stretched, shook his head and said helplessly: "You know he is your Majesty's man, why do you do this?"
Fang Jun said: "This guy has both ends and no integrity. If he can't be made more honest, he will definitely cause trouble in the future. Instead of waiting for him to cause trouble in the future, it's better to hold him tight now."
Li Ji also said: "This generation only knows how to work and has no talent. Don't worry about it."
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Li Jing smiled bitterly: "If you two join forces, the entire Tang army will tremble. Why don't you know how to avoid suspicion? If this matter spreads to the palace, Your Majesty will be unhappy."
Fang Jun laughed and said, "Mr. Wei has misunderstood. When did I join forces with Duke Ying? Since Ying Gong is so narrow-minded and unyielding in his hatred, I am afraid he would like to part ways with me and never have any contact with me until we die."
Li Jing naturally knew about Fang Jun's return to the political affairs hall, so he couldn't help but look at Li Ji. Could it be that the two of them really got into trouble because of this?
Li Ji snorted, ignored Fang Jun at all, got up and left.
Fang Jun took Li Jing and called Cui Dunli: "I haven't seen Duke Wei for many days, and I miss him very much. I asked the cook to prepare two side dishes, boil a pot of good wine, and have two drinks with Duke Wei."
"Here!"
Cui Dunli quickly agreed and went out to make arrangements.
……
In a duty room in the backyard of the Ministry of War Yamen, there were a few side dishes and a jug of good wine. Fang Jun and Li Jing sat across from each other by the window, drinking lightly.
Watching Fang Jun pouring wine for him, Li Jing asked with concern: "Is everything okay between you and Maogong?"
Fang Jun said with a smile: "Gong Wei is overly worried. Duke Ying and I are not fools. How can we not understand your majesty's methods? Although we have not said it outright, we understand it tacitly."
Li Jing was still worried: "But even so, the two soldiers under your command may not see it thoroughly. Even if you see it thoroughly, I'm afraid they will inevitably fight."
To put it nicely, Fang Jun and Li Ji can unite the army into a monolithic and airtight unit once they join forces, but to put it unfavorably, they are the two most powerful forces in the military today and are in the most direct competitive relationship. , the more interests you have in the military, the less I have. How difficult is it to coexist peacefully and advance and retreat together?
Now that Fang Jun has returned to the political affairs hall and became prime minister, he has come from behind. Li Ji may not care about the overall situation, but how can the generals under his command accept it calmly?
Fang Jun raised his glass and clinked it with Li Jing, took a sip, and said with a smile: "Checks and balances are everywhere in everything in the world and in the universe, and it is the same in the military. The ultimate principle of heaven and earth is to achieve balance through restrictions. How can there be anything born with it?" Balance? The army is never monolithic, but you can rest assured that when I need allies, I will know how to seek compromise through concessions."
Li Jing nodded and warned: "Maogong is very scheming. You must not take him lightly and be on guard at all times."
When Fang Jun's generation rose, Li Ji had already become famous and powerful, so these people may not understand Li Ji's character. This person seems to be righteous and loyal to the emperor and the country, but in fact he is introverted and resourceful, and he will definitely not have too many scruples when it comes to taking action.
Anyone who thinks he is an honest gentleman is blind...
"Thank you, Mr. Ying, for reminding me. I know it well."
Fang Jun thanked him sincerely and said: "Gong Wei is the best military expert in the world, and he knows the strengths and weaknesses of the army very well. Therefore, the reform of the military system urgently needs Duke Wei's opinion. You can't always just sit back and watch the fire from the other side. You still have to do it." It’s better to give more opinions. You can’t just look at Pei Ignorant people like Huai Jie are jumping up and down and making nonsense, right?" Li Jing was quite helpless: "I know you look down on people like Pei Huai Jie, but after all, they are in different realms and levels, how can you just slap them in the face without caring about their appearance like in the past? Pay attention to unity! ”