Chapter 267 Let’s take a look at the big plane in the distance, family
Regarding the mutual recognition of airworthiness of regional aircraft between CAAC and JAA, there is no official news released yet. The last time the two parties were in the media This clause was not included in the disclosed agreement.
Therefore, all Russian personnel, including Lozko, were completely unprepared for this incident.
The initial reaction was of course shock.
Although almost all members of the delegation have dealt with China, some of them can even be called veterans, and their development in China over the years is obvious to all.
But how did this suddenly switch to an episode about selling planes to Europe?
I always feel that a lot of plot has been omitted in the middle?
We are all aviation professionals, not to mention that China’s aviation industry was originally born out of the Soviet Union. Logically speaking, there should not be such obvious mistakes.
Of course, Huai Guomo also played a little word game here.
What he actually said was that it "can" be exported to Europe.
The airworthiness mutual recognition process between the two parties has basically reached the final stage of retreat. Negotiations on the substantive content have been completed. There are only some procedural issues that need to be determined and communicated. If we move quickly, these will be announced to the outside world. God's work.
As long as the documents are signed, the MA-60 that has passed the airworthiness certification in China can legally be sold to Europe for registration and operation.
As for how much it can actually sell, and when this model, which is still in the test flight process, can be delivered, that is another matter.
But even so, it was enough to confuse the Russians on the opposite side.
After being shocked, Lozko’s first feeling was confusion.
He even lost his temper and stopped further introducing the aircraft, and directly went to the staff of United Aviation Technology Export Company who was responsible for external technical tracking to ask about the situation.
This person is an engineer who used to work in the Antonov Design Bureau. He worked in China for a period of time more than a year ago, and later switched to the Yakovlev Design Bureau.
He didn’t know what was going on when he got the answer.
The other party said that when he went to work in China, the latter obviously did not have the ability to design and manufacture advanced aircraft. At that time, the best aircraft it could produce on its own was just the Y-8, which was a copy of the An-12. , roughly equivalent to the technical level in the early 1970s.
But some are happy and some are sad.
Compared to the Ilyushin Group, which was frightened and even a little panicked, the Tupolev representative hidden in the crowd shone brightly.
The IL-114 is basically the lowest link in the civil air transport system planned before the alliance was disbanded.
The reason why Lozko came up with this model first was that it was close to the specifications of the previous An-24, and the technical difficulty was relatively low. It was also easy to switch the production lines that produced An-12 and An-24 in the past. , can produce results relatively quickly and quickly, and I think it should be easier to impress the Chinese side.
The production cycle of higher-level aircraft is longer, and the corresponding costs and parts that require cooperation between the two parties are also greater. Even if the Ministry of Foreign Economic Relations does not set restrictions on technology exports, China will probably It is difficult to see the effect in a short period of time.
For such a complex project involving cooperation between the two countries, if it is delayed for too long, it is easy to have nightmares, especially for this type of industry with high investment and long return cycle.
This is the conclusion reached after the United Aviation Technology Export Company appointed a special person to analyze the MD82/83 aircraft and MD90 aircraft assembled by Hufei.
But now, the situation is obviously different from our previous expectations.
Although it is not clear how the Chinese did it, they are obviously not interested in small aircraft of the IL-114 level.
The Ilyushin Company does not have a larger model.
After that is the IL-96 with a maximum takeoff weight of nearly 300 tons.
Obviously a bit over the top.
And in the middle is the opportunity for their Tupolev Group.
The words were divided into two parts. On the side of the Chinese delegation, Huai Guomo did not care about the short-term chaos that the other party fell into. Instead, he walked forward with Liang Zhuoping and took a closer look at the most completed Iraqi aircraft. Seoul 114M.
Although the MA60 can be summed up as a relatively successful model in general, in order to enter the civil aviation market, many key subsystems still use Western shelf products.
For example, two Pratt & Whitney PW127Js are used for power.
Although Pratt & Whitney has not been acquired by Raytheon these days, it is still impossible to obtain a license for a model equipped with this engine to be used directly for military use.
As for China's models of the same level...
Turboprop 5A, let's not mention it...
But Huai Guomo will definitely not show too much interest on the spot. , he just remembered the model number on the nacelle on the side of the engine.
TV7M-113. It should be a product of the Klimov Design Bureau.
After you go back, you can have some private contact.
At this moment, the Russian delegation finally figured out their thinking.
Lozko approached Huai Guomo again:
“I wonder how you solve the airworthiness certification issue for commercially operated aircraft exported to Europe?”
Compared with the issue of aviation technology, this was what puzzled him.
A few years ago, Russia also tried to engage in aviation cooperation with Europe, but the results were not smooth.
The main reason is that there are too many countries over there. Negotiating with more than a dozen countries at a time would make everyone feel numb.
As long as you have enough chips, it is not difficult to defeat France and Germany, the two leaders, but there are always some small countries that will jump out and cause trouble without warning.
Obviously it is controlled by the other side of the ocean.
Now that China can overcome this problem, they are really curious.
Of course there is also some envy.
"Well...According to the requirements of the EU, the current details of the negotiations cannot be made public, but it should not be long before..."
Huai Guomo took the Europeans for granted. He used a shield, and then changed the subject:
"In addition, since you invited such a large team of ours to come here, you must not be able to bring out only this kind of regional aircraft. Why don't we open the skylight and speak frankly? , how about just showing some sincerity?”
Lozko, who had thought he was a clever calculator just now, was mercilessly slapped in the face. Now he was a little embarrassed and hurriedly got off the slope:
“Of course not. In fact, this is just the beginning of this trip. I just didn’t expect that, Can you come up with a model that is comparable to the ATR42 in such a short period of time? As for your sincerity... Please come with me and let's go to the No. 1 assembly workshop."
"Actually. Our model cannot be said to be comparable to ATR42."
Huai Guomo followed the other party and said casually.
“Oh?”
Lozko thought the Chinese had some special negotiation skills.
“The main reason why we can enter the European market is that we are more advanced than them.”
“If you also have development needs in the field of regional aircraft, we can achieve some technology and policies Cooperation in this regard, of course, is based on equal exchange.”
After the signing of the last agreement with Europe, Huai Guomo has also experienced the power of “technology for technology” as Chang Haonan said. Comfortable.
Now at least they are on equal footing, taking advantage of each other.
In the past, when technology was introduced, China was basically in a passive position, completely controlled by others, and occasionally it could gain some advantages.
Especially when I heard Chang Haonan talk about the story of three Europeans who wanted to buy a "premium version" of software but were politely rejected.
To sum it up, it is a pleasure.
“Ahem——”
Lozko’s eyes almost went dark.
Good guy, I haven't sold anything here yet, but the other party has taken the initiative to do business.
But at this time, no matter what he said, he looked like a clown, so he had to speed up his pace and walked into the wider workshop No. 1 with a large number of people behind him.
Huai Guomo took a deep breath and his expression finally turned serious.
Several IL-76 transport aircraft that have been completed or will be completed soon are parked inside.
Judging from the relatively new condition of the machine and the assembly frame next to it, they should not have been abandoned yet.
In other words, they are all equipment that can be obtained immediately.
This is what he wanted to see when he led the team this time!
(End of this chapter)