Chapter 684: We really need a research team
If we want to cooperate in development, even if the technology developed is shared by both parties, we definitely cannot just push it to the numerical calculation business department and be done with it.
Of course, in most cases, the same group of people will do the final work, but more attention must be paid to the reception specifications.
You can’t just throw out a salesperson and send him away.
But on the other hand, technical cooperation not only means sharing rights, but also means sharing responsibilities. Even considering the gap in R&D capabilities between the two companies, I am afraid that the Torch Group is bigger.
Therefore, it is not like the numerical calculation business, where you can start work just by getting a list of requirements.
Always know more about the actual situation.
This is true even if the other party is an enterprise under the Science and Technology Commission system.
Therefore, after much thought, Chang Haonan decided to take a slow approach first:
“Manager Cai, you should also know that our company has not had a deep understanding of the shipbuilding industry in the past. It’s just ordinary business, but the technical cooperation between the two companies has a huge impact, and it certainly cannot be decided arbitrarily. Therefore, I will make a note of this for now, and I will send comrades from the office and technical department to have in-depth contact with you later, how about it? "
Cai Honggui originally discovered that the French GTT was no longer interested in the Gas-Transport system, so he came to Torch Group to see if there was a way to break the situation. Naturally, he knew that the other party was a company with Shanghai. It is impossible for a second-level state-owned enterprise on the same level as Dongchang to sign a contract with just a few words.
Although the four major military industrial corporations have completed the de-administrative reform (the aviation industry is still delayed due to General Manager Chang's operation, it has been extended for another year), but de-administrativeization is not de-organization, it still needs to be Under the jurisdiction and supervision of superiors.
In other words, doing business between state-owned enterprises is often more troublesome than between private companies.
Being able to meet Chang Haonan in person and explain the whole matter clearly this time was beyond expectations.
I immediately nodded in agreement:
"What Mr. Chang said is reasonable. We really need to be cautious about technical cooperation."
"After I go back this time, I will sort out the technical data related to the Gas-Transport system and LNG ship manufacturing, and then let a dedicated person Send it over. In addition, if Mr. Chang wants to further inspect the situation of our factory, you are always welcome to come and provide guidance..."
Compared with aviation manufacturing, shipbuilding manufacturing excludes some special products, such as nuclear submarines or Except for floating nuclear power plants and the like, the sensitivity is relatively not that high.
So when it comes to technology patents, “protection in exchange for disclosure” has indeed been achieved to a certain extent.
Even if the Hudong factory doesn’t take the initiative to provide relevant information about the Gas-Transport system, if Chang Haonan wants to check it, he can find it with a little effort.
It's just that if you don't purchase the authorization, you can't use it for profit.
Cai Honggui wants to give it now, but it doesn’t count as leaking business secrets.
Of course, that’s what it says, but LNG ships are such complex system engineering. The words “relevant technical data” sound easy to say. In fact, if it were converted into a physical form, it would probably have to be loaded on a truck. It has to be four in the front and eight in the back.
Now that the two parties have only had initial contact, it can indeed be seen that they are very sincere when others make such statements.
After all, even public content has unique value after being systematically organized.
Otherwise, there would be no such thing as open source network intelligence.
"You and I are on the same level in terms of organizational relationship, and we are not in the same system. We are still out of the question when we come to provide guidance."
Chang Haonan is now used to such bragging. When Paipai felt embarrassed or in a state of excitement, he immediately waved his hand and replied:
"In addition, my personal schedule has been tight in the past month or two, so I may let the technical backbone below do preliminary contact, but We can wait until then to make specific decisions..."
"Anyway, I would like to thank Mr. Chang in advance and wish us smooth cooperation..."
"You're welcome..."
Although he only received a verbal promise from Chang Haonan, when Cai Honggui left, his whole spirit became different.
Outside the Torch Group, a young man holding a windbreaker in his hand saw Cai Honggui coming out. He quickly stepped forward and put the clothes on the latter.
"Master, what are you..."
When he just came out of the conference room, he saw that Cai Honggui looked like he was twenty years older. It only took about half an hour. In the past, it was like being young again...
"I just talked with Mr. Chang from Torch Group."
With the help of his apprentice, Cai Honggui stuffed his arms into his sleeves and adjusted the collar of his coat.
He was a welder in his early years. Due to long-term work in high-salt, high-humidity and low-temperature environments, his arthritis was quite severe. Especially in winter, it was difficult to wear a coat.
After completing this series of actions, he took out his gloves from his pocket and put them on while continuing:
"Mr. Chang said that he will send technicians to our factory to check after a while. If there are no problems, you can consider working with us to continue the development of Gas-Transport system LNG ships”
"Really?" The disciple next to him was happy when he heard the news, but it only lasted for a moment, and soon returned to his worried look:
"But... even if... The Gas-Transport system has been implemented, but compared with the Technigaz system, loading the same volume of LNG requires a larger and heavier ship. It seems that it is still difficult to compete with others..."
Cai Honggui heard He almost rolled his eyes and raised his hand to hit his apprentice on the head:
"There is no way to achieve success in engineering in one step. Don't aim too high. If it hadn't been for the quality problems that a group of Japanese companies had concentrated on last year, we would have There is no chance to enter now.”
"To be able to stand on the same track as others now is something that we people didn't dare to think about in the past. Why do you still feel dissatisfied?"
"..."
After all, the apprentice is young and reacts quickly. Cai Honggui didn't really mean to hit him, so he easily dodged it with a sideways jump. Then he covered his head and said to his master:
"I mean, we can Can’t we also consider using the Technigaz system to build ships?”
Cai Honggui’s face froze, he lowered his head and hesitated for a moment before shaking his head:
"GTT Company itself is not involved in the ship production business, so it is not difficult to buy the patent of the Technigaz system. It only costs money."
"But the technical route of the cargo tank system is closely related to the structure of the entire ship. Power and safety design are closely related. The Koreans came into contact with the Technigaz system several years before us, and have now obtained many patents in these fields. If we change our technical route and pursue it now, we will definitely be restricted in this area... ”
Having said this, the apprentice naturally understood it -
GTT Company will sell the cargo tank patent to Hudong Shipyard. That is because everyone is in Different positions in the industrial chain belong to working together to make money, which is nothing more than making a big profit but making a small difference.
However, Samsung Shipbuilding and Hudong Shipbuilding are in the same ecological niche. Not to mention life and death, at least they are in a competitive relationship.
It is simply impossible to license your key patents to your major competitors.
Therefore, the path of the Technigaz system is basically impossible for China, which has not taken the lead.
"Then... we can only count on Torch Group to cooperate with us?"
"This can only be done in a short period of time. To be fair, we have been accustomed to being technology chasers in the past. , In terms of core technology research and development, the level is indeed inferior to others..."
"But...in case there is nothing good that Torch can do, after all, they seem to have never been exposed to shipbuilding before... …”
"Well... that's what I said, but I heard from my colleagues at the Hangzhou Gear Factory that Mr. Chang had never been exposed to the machinery manufacturing industry before, but his first move was to take charge of Jiang Zhong's 70,000-ton forging press. It seems to be making progress. It went very smoothly..."
"..."
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On the other side, after sending Cai Honggui out, Chang Haonan picked up the phone and contacted Liu Hongbo.
"Professor Liu, do we still have free manpower in our Numerical Computing Business Department? I have a shipbuilding business cooperation that we have never had contact with before. I need a few people to understand the situation..."
He got straight to the point.
I was stunned when I asked this question directly. After a long period of silence, Liu Hongbo’s bitter voice came from the other end of the phone:
“My junior brother is the leader of the Numerical Computing Business Department. The orders have been scheduled until March next year. We can’t wait to use one person as three people. How can we still have free manpower?”
“And since it is a business that we have not been exposed to before, we should hand it in first. It should be given to the R&D department. In principle, our business department only deals with the application level..."
"Hiss..."
Chang Haonan thought about it carefully and felt that it seemed reasonable.
He did let Liu Hongbo be in charge of the helicopter design business before, but that relied on Professor Liu's personal ability.
However, the main business of Torch Group is program update and maintenance after all. The so-called R&D department is actually the original "National Key Laboratory of Numerical Simulation and Data Analysis", which has not even changed its name to this day.
The official version of the TORC Multiphysics software has just been released. The lights are on 24 hours a day in the office over there. He doesn’t even have to make a phone call, so he knows that he is probably very busy...
“… …”
Chang Haonan suddenly felt that he might really need a research group of his own...
(End of this chapter)