Chapter 312 Is Neon Man’s technical route the right one?
This kind of ridicule content has received a lot of likes. When everyone really needed to know the news, you were invisible.
Of course there are some valuable answers.
“Thank you for the invitation. After Guangshen’s interview was announced, everyone has invited me to answer. I am well-known on Zhihu precisely because I received the part of the natural fund sponsorship managed by Guangshen, and at the same time Because I am engaged in artificial intelligence-related research.
Everyone must think that I have something to do with the project Guangshen mentioned, but I think the research I do has little to do with what Guangshen mentioned. The research is mainly about auxiliary artificial intelligence
I have introduced it many times before that the artificial intelligence I do is mainly used in the intelligent auxiliary review of natural funds. Guangshen and I have only talked once, and there is no subversion at all.
Intelligent-assisted review, doesn’t the current project review require experts from the expert database? In the past, there were dedicated department staff to do the allocation, but now it is done by artificial intelligence, which allocates projects to experts.
This system was put into use in the year when the 2023 Natural Science Foundation of China's Deepening Reform Implementation Outline was released. At that time, all Youth Fund projects under the F02 code were grouped by artificial intelligence. and assign expert reviewers.
However, there will still be situations where the matching is inaccurate, or the actual matching degree is larger than the matching degree calculated by the artificial intelligence background. So people still need to do fine-tuning.
My project is to improve its calculation matching accuracy and reduce human intervention as much as possible.
The significance of this matter is obviously not as profound as what Guangshen mentioned in the interview.
So I don’t think the work I do is so good that it can bring about the disruptive changes to artificial intelligence that Guangshen mentioned in the interview.
But again, I see many people on the Internet saying that Guangshen deliberately exaggerated. I don’t believe this. In the interview after receiving the Nobel Prize, Guangshen stated with great fanfare that he had achieved a breakthrough in the field of artificial intelligence technology. Then It must be a significant enough technological breakthrough.
With the status of the God of Light, he does not need to exaggerate the facts to flatter himself, and we know the God of Light very well, he will only do more than what he says, not less.
What's more, the theme of this interview with Yangma is Qian Xuesen's question. Since the innovation mechanism is discussed, many people have questioned in the past that the review and screening power of the annual 2 billion natural fund will be given to Guangshen. Whether one person's hand is appropriate or not.
Three years have passed since it was handed over to Guangshen. These projects under Guangshen have indeed not achieved any amazing results.
If the final breakthrough in the field of artificial intelligence is far from what Guangshen said, then people will only question the rationality of his continued control of this part of the natural fund, which will be harmful to him but not beneficial.
Three years is not a long time, and the Nobel Prize he won this time will definitely give Guangshen more patience, whether it is Yanjing or the people, waiting for the natural fund projects he leads to bear fruit.
Therefore, for the God of Light, there is no point in exaggerating in this regard.
Now I look forward to Guangshen personally announcing what kind of results are worthy of his use of such exaggerated language and such an important occasion to promote. ” replied a blogger on Zhihu who was sponsored by the Natural Fund under Chen Yuanguang’s jurisdiction.
Another blogger who is also famous for this replied:
“Laxative, I actually know roughly what the project is because I participated. All I can say is that it is very, very amazing.
At that time, none of us believed this was true.
In addition, Guangshen did exaggerate, but he definitely did not exaggerate the final results. What he exaggerated was the role we played, and the final presentation of the entire results could be achieved. It is said that it is entirely the result of Guangshen alone.
Of course, we people also contributed, but our contribution is very small.
You can understand that the contributions we provide are materials, and in the end, God of Light integrated these materials into an unimaginable dish.
It’s really, really incredible. The entire result has been out for half a year and has gone through some verifications. But when I see the data, I still have the illusion that this is something we can do now. .
I don’t know whether it has anything to do with people creating mechanical life in the future, but in my opinion, it must be the prerequisite technology for mechanical life. "The answer of a respondent named Colin quickly became the answer with the most likes under the entire question.
The number of comments also grew rapidly, and soon exceeded one thousand and two thousand likes. One thousand comments is an unimaginable ratio.
“Hello, I am a netizen from northern China. Can you tell me more about the technological breakthrough? ”
"Boss, please bear with me."
"My curiosity has been raised. It has been running for half a year, and there is no news at all in the industry. How high the level of confidentiality is."
< br>"Boss, I just want to ask one question, that is, will there be a paper in the end? Will the relevant results be open source?"
The last comment was replied by the respondent, "There will definitely be a paper, I am responsible for part of the data processing and corresponding module writing, but I don’t know if the results will be open source. It depends on the light and the above.
I don’t know if it will be open source. Ways to promote technological progress, or to keep related technologies open source for the sake of confidentiality. ”
Later, some people involved in the project came forward one after another, and the curiosity of domestic netizens was aroused. The official documentary of Dongda shifted the focus.
The day after Chen Yuanguang finished his interview, a documentary called "The Legend of Core Fire" was quietly launched on major platforms.
The most interesting one is the last episode "Lithography Factory".
This episode fully demonstrates how Laos and China solve foreign technology blockades.
“Faced with the complex and ever-changing chip industry situation, Chen Yuanguang has no panic, because under Chen Yuanguang’s leadership, Dongda’s chip industry has always had a backup plan in Mianyang, and this backup plan will start in 2023 Lithography factory started
The photolithography factory has always been a key project within Dongda, and its difficulty is far beyond expectations."
Yes, the public opinion of Dongda immediately transferred to the photolithography factory.
About the photolithography factory, There have always been rumors that Dongda achieved the 3nm process by relying on the photolithography factory
Later, after OPPO's butterfly tape-out was successful and the photolithography factory was OEM, even with a confidentiality agreement. , what should be revealed has been revealed.
It’s just that it has not been officially recognized, and everyone is not sure about Chen Yuanguang’s role in it. In addition, we have only heard that this thing exists, and no one has yet personally heard about it. Saw it.
Now that the documentary has been released, everyone knows that Chen Yuanguang has been deeply involved in the photolithography factory from the beginning. And the appearance is very much in line with Lao Zhong’s imagination.
“Damn it, I discovered that the projects that Guangshen participated in all liked to complete such huge projects. The same goes for the photolithography factory, and the previous electromagnetic propulsion rocket. If Guangshen was born in the Soviet Union, it would be absolutely awesome. I am a lover of industrial wonders.”
“What kind of industrial Leviathan is this? I’m very curious about what TSMC’s senior management thought when they saw this thing. I think my mentality will explode. This light The engraving factory has not lowered the chip price to a bargain price.”
“I think the one who is most panicked should be Samsung. Yangtze Memory has made these memory chip manufacturers no longer profitable. The price of this thing can be reduced significantly in the future.”
“I seriously doubt how long Samsung’s memory chip business can last.”
Hotspots come one after another, and the lithography factory has arrived before the veil of artificial intelligence has been unveiled.
There are so many surprises that even the seniors can’t stand it. It is a surprise to the Chinese people, but a shock to the foreigners.
Because I really can’t guess what level of technological breakthrough it is.
Foreign academic circles have asked Dongda to open source related technologies and stop hiding them.
The big guys in academia directly send emails to scholars they think have status and power at the University of Tokyo:
“I think artificial intelligence is related to the development of all mankind, and the University of Tokyo should assume corresponding responsibilities. Relevant technologies should be open sourced. "
"In the past, we have always made artificial intelligence technology open source. Dongda cannot hide it like a treasure just because it has achieved technological breakthroughs in certain fields."
In this regard, foreign scholars can naturally speak from a moral high ground, because the technology in the field of artificial intelligence has indeed been open source in the past, and the code and framework are all public.
Even technology companies in Silicon Valley have adopted an open source attitude towards many artificial intelligence technologies. The most famous one should be Facebook's Llama model.
Bill Gates said during the interview: "I believe that a fully cooperative attitude should be adopted in artificial intelligence. Artificial intelligence is not only related to the future development of human society, but also contains unpredictable risks.
I think Wright should make it fully public and let the whole world judge the risks involved.”
Musk did not speak, but posted a video on Twitter, which contained a robot. While driving, the accelerator button was pressed on the entire video, and the robot could be seen driving through the streets and alleys with the naked eye.
(This is the research result of the University of Tokyo, the robot is driving on the test track)
After sending it out, Musk went on to send out the results of Higashi-Okawa Haratsuka Kento's research team. The same robot drives.
Comparing the two, we can find that the former is already driving on the road, while the latter is only on the test track.
“It’s very, very incredible. The technical route chosen by Wright is actually the same as that of Neon Man, building a robot to drive. Is this the development direction of driverless driving in the future?
It turns out Are we all on the wrong track?”
Musk then sent several tweets to explain.
“I communicated with Wright and he showed me this video and said it was part of what he called an incredible breakthrough in artificial intelligence technology.”
"The robot in the video has achieved L4 level autonomous driving. Yes, L4 level autonomous driving does not require lidar, cameras, or optical satellites. L4 level autonomous driving is a robot driving for people. "
"After seeing this video, I realized that Tesla's entire self-driving technology route needs to be rethought."
"And Wright also said that this is just the entire process. Part of a technological breakthrough.”
After this video was released, a large number of practitioners forwarded the caption with only one word: Amazing.
Autonomous driving is nothing more than two mainstream technology routes, lidar or machine vision. Of course, there is also a combination of the two.
The one done by Dongda University is regarded as a joke by everyone, because if you add a robot to drive on it, isn't it the same as taking off your pants and farting?
Everyone really can’t imagine the meaning of doing this.
Chen Yuanguang came out and said that this was the direction of development, and he produced evidence and sent out the videos. There was obviously no trace of artificial synthesis.
This incident indeed subverted everyone’s perception as Chen Yuanguang said in the interview.
Originally everyone thought this was a mentally retarded route, another classic case of Neon’s wrong choice of technical route.
After Chen Yuanguang's platform, the situation was completely different.
Before everyone could figure out the reason, in Shenhai, the robot was driving on the road in Didi.
“Holy shit, what is this? Is this a robot? I got a robot in a taxi today.” I just saw this thing on social media yesterday, and I got one in a taxi today. Xiao Li was shocked. Stayed.
He did not get in the car immediately, but took out his mobile phone to prepare for shooting, because he realized that the video uploaded on Douyin would not be popular on the entire Internet.
Xiao Li glanced at the car logo and saw that it was a Volkswagen. Then he looked more closely and saw that it was a Volkswagen Jetta. He thought: "Why isn't it Xiaomi?"
After he sat in the back row, he glanced at the silver-white robot in front of him and thought that it was still a manual Jetta.
“Brothers, I took a taxi to work today, and I actually got a Didi driven by a robot driver. Can you believe it?”
After taking the photo and uploading it, Xiao Li started watching Didi. The interface on Didi asked, "Master Tie? Is this robot's surname Tie? What a strange surname."
"Master Tie, are you a robot?" Xiao Li started to find something to say. In fact, the robot was not Ignoring him, he was sent to his destination smoothly and then stopped, and Didi's built-in voice notification informed him of his arrival.
Xiao Li also videotaped the whole process.
When he arrived, he looked at his phone and saw that the number of likes on Douyin had exceeded 100,000. It was obvious that someone had bought traffic for him.
“Is the blogger in Shenhai?”
“A robot drives for people, why does it feel like it’s unnecessary?”
“Damn it, you didn’t realize that this is a Volkswagen Is it? In the past, other cars had to have cameras or lidar for autonomous driving, but now this robot can achieve L4 level autonomous driving in the Jetta? "
"I feel like other car companies are going crazy. ”
"It turns out that what is needed from L3 to L4 is not a camera or a lidar, but a robot."
"I am now curious about the algorithm behind it."
Many Internet celebrities today I want to grab some hot spots and get ahold of this Volkswagen Jetta driven by a robot.
Even ordinary people want to see if they can have such good luck when they take Didi.
Indirectly it has boosted Didi’s market share in the entire Shenhai region, and even Jetta has been favored
(End of this chapter)