Chapter 125: Patent ownership must be in your own hands
If it were another experimental group, the graduate students would help the teacher conduct experiments, and they might only get 1,800 yuan a month, or even receive no cents for the experiment. Groups are not uncommon either.
If possible, Sui Feng would like to hug Xu Zhou and Ning Chen tightly and continue to study in this laboratory.
Sui Feng quickly poured the water and handed it to Xu Shou. He stood behind Xu Zhou and Ning Chen, ready to be ready at any time.
"Manager Xu, I heard that your company has been developing well recently and has already negotiated several orders for city taxis."
This news is not a secret, Xu Shou also nodded and said:
"Yes, this is also thanks to the technology you provided, which played a big role in our new models."
Without this new anode material, Piati may not necessarily win the bid, but at least it would not have such an obvious advantage.
As a company with great goals, Piatti hopes to truly become one of the world's top car brands.
After some pleasantries, Xu Shou talked about the main purpose of coming to the Materials Laboratory of Shengzhou University this time.
"Mr. Xu, Ning Chen, we would like to know whether there is room for us to continue to make breakthroughs in the field of lithium battery anode materials?"
Hearing this question, Xu Zhou replied:
< br>"Manager Xu, in fact, we have been thinking about some new directions after we completed the previous topic. For now, we have found several directions in which we may continue to make breakthroughs."
Before Xu Zhou didn't mention these things to Ning Chen. Ning Chen didn't know if Xu Zhou acted on the spot or if he had already had these ideas.
"Really? Teacher Xu, can I ask for advice?"
Xu Shou also seemed a little excited, because lithium batteries have always been an area that Piati is very good at, and Piati also hopes to continue to expand their advantages.
“It’s not enough to ask for advice, but of course it’s okay to talk about it. Our initial research was on pure porous silicon nano anode materials. After that, we experienced porous silicon-metal composite materials, and porous silicon-metal -Carbon composite materials. What we can continue to try in the future is to study from the dimension of porous silicon."
"Dimensionally?" Xu Shou asked.
"Yes. For example, one-dimensional silicon nanomaterials, well... you can understand it as a very thin nanolayer. This nanomaterial has the advantages of high strength and toughness, because this kind of The material has large gaps, which can buffer volume changes, thereby avoiding the problem of reduced battery life after long-term use..."
After taking a drink of water, Xu Zhou continued:
"Of course, three-dimensional porous silicon materials can also be considered. This is also a type of porous silicon-carbon composite material, but because of the difference in internal structure and composite method, this electrode material can have more excellent physical properties..." < br>
Since the technology Xu Zhou mentioned this time was more sophisticated, Xu Shou only had a partial understanding of this knowledge.
Despite this, Xu Shou still has great trust in Xuzhou. After all, Xuzhou has made such good anode materials before, and this technology is top-notch in the world.
Ning Chen can understand the technologies Xu Zhou explained. Although Ning Chen is not sure yet whether these technologies can really be realized in the future, at least they are self-consistent in theory.
It can be seen that Xu Zhou must have made very thorough preparations before to be able to talk like this in the conversation with Xu Shou.
After listening to Xu Zhou's explanation, Xu Shou was full of confidence in the next cooperation between the two parties.
"Mr. Xu, to be honest, I am here this time just hoping to continue a new cooperation with your laboratory. Of course, the contract amount this time will also be higher than the last time."< br>
Xu Shou himself also knew that the last time Xuzhou and his team's results brought Piati far more than 10 million.
If we continue to follow the previous contract amount, it will definitely appear to be too little.
"Teacher Xu, this time we can increase the project funding to 15 million. I wonder if you are satisfied with this amount?"
In fact, the largest contract amount the company gave Xu Shou was 20 million.
Of course, Xu Shou cannot raise the price to the highest price from the beginning. He still needs to leave some room for adjustment first.
Hearing the price proposed by Xu Shou, Xu Zhou smiled and said:
"Manager Xu, I hope to change the way of cooperation this time. The research funding for the project can be reduced to one thousand Wan, but regarding patents, I hope to cooperate through patent licensing.”
“Patent licensing?”
"Yes. If the research results of our laboratory can be applied, we hope to implement patent licensing at a price of no less than 10 million per year. In this case, your company does not need to spend so much R&D funds at one time "Xu Zhou's opinion made Xu Shou feel a little at a loss. This kind of cooperation was not in their plan.
"In this case, Mr. Xu, I will give your feedback to the company about your ideas, and then we will determine the specific cooperation method."
"Okay, Manager Xu , then we are waiting for your news.”
After sending Xu Shou away, Ning Chen and Xu Zhou couldn’t help but smile at each other.
"Mr. Xu, you negotiated the price too hard."
Although it seems that there is not much price difference between the two cooperation methods, the actual gap is still very huge.
A valuable patent can often be used for several years, ten years, or even longer.
Calculated in this way, once this research can be successfully applied, it may bring tens of millions or even more patent licensing fees to Xuzhou and Ningchen.
“Of course, the benefits that should be fought for must still be fought for. The licensing fees for many patents are far beyond your imagination. For example, for some inconspicuous small pills, the patent royalties for one year may be just It will reach billions of dollars.”
Ning Chen naturally knew a little about these things. In fact, as long as Ning Chen could apply for a few more valuable patents, he wouldn't have to think about starting a business at all, and the money he earned would be enough for him.
"Teacher Xu, regarding the issue of patent ownership..."
"We both share it, so let’s tentatively decide on fifty percent each. The specific proportion can also wait for the project. We’ll decide after it’s done, but I think it’s more appropriate for one person to have half the amount.”
Xu Zhou believes that both himself and Ning Chen will make major contributions to the research of the project.
In the last horizontal topic, this was indeed the result.
"Okay, then it's settled." Ning Chen agreed.
Since project funds include many expenses, only a small part of them will ultimately fall into the hands of researchers.
But through patent licensing, Ning Chen and Xu Zhou can obtain all patent royalties. After all, the patent ownership is in their own hands.
After Xu Shou returned, he immediately reported to the headquarters the results of his discussions with Xu Zhou and Ning Chen.
Wang Fu is naturally not inclined to cooperate with this patent licensing method. After all, it will cost them more.
But since Xuzhou and the others made this request, Wang Fu also knew that he could only choose to accept it.
After all, the materials laboratory of Shengzhou University is currently in a leading position in the world in the research field of silicon-based lithium battery anode materials.
If they choose to cooperate with other car companies, Piati will lose this advantage and fall into passivity.
"Manager Xu, you can agree to their request. But we must also add a few details to the contract."
"Mr. Wang, please say."
"First, we need to have exclusive licensing rights for patents. Second, we need to have priority for future project cooperation. Third, if the research results do not have the ideal application value, we can choose to refuse to accept the patent license. Cooperation..."
Wang Fu mentioned several contract details that needed to be added, and Wang Fu also recorded them carefully.
“Okay, Mr. Wang, I will explain it to the Materials Laboratory of Shengzhou University.”
The next day, Xu Shou came to Xuzhou’s laboratory again and reported yesterday These new cooperation details that Wang Fu gave him were explained to Xu Zhou and Ning Chen.
After hearing the conditions proposed by Xu Shou, Xu Zhou nodded and said:
"No problem, your company has always been our first choice for cooperation, and we are naturally willing to exclusively license the patent to your company..."
Neither Xu Zhou nor Ning Chen had any objections to these added details. , because they all hope to produce truly applicable research results and reach long-term cooperation with BYD.
In the end, after detailed discussions between both parties and several changes to various details in the contract, the signing of the contract was finally officially completed.
(End of this chapter)