But Ma Guochao is just an ordinary doctor after all.
Faced with Chen Jiang's inquiry, he didn't hold on for long before he confessed everything he knew.
It is impossible for people like Chen Ma Guochao to keep secrets when facing inspection and interrogation.
Many normal people feel that if they don’t say anything when asked by the police, wouldn’t that be the end of it? Isn’t that the end of the matter?
But in fact, only those who have actually entered the interrogation room, and only those who have actually faced police interrogation, know that this is not the case at all.
Not to mention facing criminal inquiries from the police, most people cannot help themselves when facing correspondence inquiries from relevant departments.
The reason why many cases nowadays are able to pull out the carrots and bring out the mud is because the other party is too nervous during the interrogation and talks indiscriminately. In addition to his own affairs, he also talks about other people's affairs.
And there is no way to stop it. Sometimes the people in the relevant departments themselves are afraid.
In the end, there is no choice. Sometimes you can only tell the other person, just talk about your own affairs, and shut up about other things.
But there is no way to remind them directly. After all, this type of conversation, correspondence inquiry, or interrogation must be audio and video recorded according to formal procedures.
For example, in the secret arrest of Ma Guochao this time, although the arrest method and interrogation location were relatively different. However, there were indeed audio and video recordings during the interrogation process. Lu Chuan was sensible about this.
"They came to me 5 years ago, when I owed a gambling debt..."
According to what Ma Guochao explained, the other party actually did not understand what was going on behind the scenes. Who is in charge?
Five years ago, Ma Guochao lost 8,000 yuan due to gambling.
The other party's salary is only about 3,000 to 4,000 yuan a month. Losing 8,000 yuan can be said to cost half of the Malaysian Super League and half of his life.
The other party initially forced Ma Guochao for half a month. Seeing that he really couldn't come up with the money, he pointed out a way to make a fortune.
“It was that friend who introduced me to it. He said there was a way to make money quickly and there was no risk. He just asked me to issue some inspection orders.”
Ma Guochao The work is indeed relatively simple. When the gray chain behind it has needs, some relevant information will be sent to Ma Guochao.
When Ma Guochao treats patients, he will prescribe some laboratory tests.
Then the test results are used to screen kidney sources that match the demander.
"Actually, I didn't know that they were buying and selling kidneys at first..."
At first, Ma Guochao didn't know that these people were buying and selling kidneys, he just thought it was something else.
But later he discovered that one of the patients he had seen was someone who was determined to meet that requirement through testing. After coming for a follow-up consultation, my waist was pinched.
At that time, Ma Guochao found out that the other party was actually looking for a match for the kidney source by himself, and then started buying and selling kidneys.
“But I really didn’t participate in what happened next, and I don’t know. I just wrote a test order for them, found some matches, and handed over the matching personnel information to the other party. It doesn’t matter anymore.”
"Who is doing the kidney removal operation?"
Ma Guochao shook his head like a rattle: "I really don't know this!"
"I'm just a physician who writes some check-ups and does some internal medicine. The examination is still possible. I really don’t know about the surgery department, and I don’t know who they contacted, but I guess it seems to be someone from our hospital, or the doctors from the surgery department. But I didn’t check. If I’m afraid of being discovered, I just do my own thing and get my share of the money.”
This guy Ma Guochao is very timid. This matter started with him 5 years ago. Just collect the money and don't ask anything else. "Who are you training with?"
"I don't know."
Chen Jiang glared: "Don't know?"
Ma Guochao nodded fiercely: "I really don't know, they are the ones who take the initiative to contact me every time. I can’t contact him at all.”
“What about the money?”
“In cash, they give me 20,000 every time. Bucks Cash ”
Ma Guochao quickly explained: "There were 19 surgeries in total, and I received them all in cash, and I don't know who gave the cash. Anyway, after the work was completed, when I got to the office, there were two dollars in cash in the drawer. "
In the drawer?
“Who can enter your office?”
Ma Guochao almost cried: “Anyone can enter your office!”
“My office has no door. There is no lock, and usually I am not the only one who sits there. Sometimes his doctor also takes turns to attend consultations. I only go to that office when I am scheduled, so to be honest, there is no such thing in the office. I have too many personal belongings, just bring a water cup with me during the consultation..."
While Ma Guochao's interrogation here was ongoing, his family called him, and Ma Guochao excused himself by attending a gathering of colleagues.
The interrogation lasted until 10:30 pm.
But the result of the interrogation was not ideal.
The gray industrial chain behind this is actually just using Ma Guochao to select qualified personnel.
Ma Guochao has not even seen the other party in 5 years, and he doesn’t even know who gave him the money.
He didn't know anything about the procedures in the entire chain. He only had a guess about the person who performed the surgery, and knew that he was probably a doctor from the surgery department of the county hospital, but he couldn't guess who it was.
I can only say that the person chosen by the other party is very good, and the information isolation of Malaysian operations is also very good.
But there are also some gains from Ma Guochao's interrogation.
Every time Ma Guochao received a message, it was a note, not a phone number to call him. How the information in this note appeared can be investigated.
In addition, every time Ma Guochao finds a match, he will record the match's information and put it in a drawer in his office.
According to him, when he went to work the next day, the note in the drawer disappeared.
That is to say, there is always someone in the hospital. Someone who was monitoring Ma Guochao, or the force behind it, was in the county hospital, serving as the contact person for Ma Guochao.
As long as you find this person, you can follow the clues and continue to find the people behind.
After analyzing this clue, Lu Chuan and others felt that the decision to secretly arrest Ma Guochao was correct. Otherwise, if they acted in the hospital, they would definitely have a negative impact on the entire industry chain if they were discovered by the other party. Once the person leaves, there is probably no way to solve the case.
At 11 o'clock in the evening, Chen Jiang gave Ma Guochao a few more words, telling him to keep it confidential, and all his actions were under strict police surveillance. Don't make any mistakes. This scare Afterwards, Ma Guochao agreed repeatedly and then let the other party go home.
In order not to make his family suspicious, Chen Jiang also gave Ma Guochao two sips of liquor, so at least he smelled of alcohol. (End of this chapter)