Chapter 146 The purpose of fighting is to win! (Second update)
Zhu Di remained silent.
He actually agreed with what Qiu Fu said.
Firearms can only be the icing on the cake and are not worthy of being used as the main battle.
He was also frightened by Xia Zhibai's words before. Now that he calmed down, he felt how big and inappropriate what Xia Zhibai said was, and how empty and dry it was. The imperial court was already financially tight. With so much extra money to improve firearms, there is no need to make such a large investment.
What if the improvements fail?
Isn’t it a huge waste, but also a waste of money and people?
Zhu Di said indifferently: "The imperial court has its own considerations regarding firearms. If it really needs improvement, how can the imperial court not do it? You don't know the imperial court's investment in firearms, so you make rash judgments, let alone after so many years. , my Da Ming’s firearms have been steadily suppressing Bei Yuan.”
“This is enough to prove that my Da Ming’s firearms are not as weak as you said.”
“On the contrary. Very strong.”
"Moreover."
"Firearms require a lot of manpower and financial resources, whether it is maintenance or maintenance. As long as the Ming Dynasty's firearms can stabilize the surrounding area, it will not be improved or not. What's the point? How much combat power can we provide to the border troops? If we can win, we can't win. No matter how good the firearms are, we still can't win. ?"
Zhu Di sneered, stroking his beard and said: "No, fighting depends on the general's strategy and the courage and courage of the soldiers."
"If only. It would be too exaggerated to think that if you have an advantage in weapons, you can do whatever you want. Is it possible that if you have better firearms than me, I won’t fight? I’ll just admit defeat and surrender?”
"The victory of the war still depends on fighting with real swords and guns on the battlefield."
"Win at that time is winning, and losing is losing."
Zhu Di said expressed his own opinion.
Weapons do not determine everything, not even the trend.
The consequences of war are always made by people.
Qiu Fu nodded repeatedly.
He has been dissatisfied with Xia Zhibai for a long time. He couldn't understand the lofty speeches mentioned above, so naturally he couldn't refute it. However, in terms of military operations, he was far more experienced than Xia Zhibai. Xia Zhibai wanted to give them some pointers in this regard, but that was a miscalculation.
He won’t tolerate it.
Li Bin and Liu Sheng also looked disdainful.
If the war is really going to be done like Xia Zhibai's way, then let's not fight at all. The two groups get together before the war to compete with each other to see who has the best weapon. Who has the better weapon and who wins? What are these generals doing?
Yao Guangxiao lowered his head and said nothing.
It seems that the situation in the palace has not been heard.
Looking like a fugue.
Yuan Gong had a slight smile on his face.
He knew why Zhu Di and Xia Zhibai had such big differences.
The fundamental reason lies in the different starting points.
What Zhu Di and others focus on is 'command', which is a kind of superior 'vision', which is a kind of superiority and arrogance of being a general.
Xia Zhibai focuses on the soldiers at the bottom, the casualties in every battle, and the long-term combat effectiveness of the army.
This one is up and the other is down, one is high and the other is low, the footholds are different, and the results are naturally opposite.
There is no right or wrong.
Xia Zhibai sighed softly, his eyes a little helpless.
The thoughts of Zhu Di and other generals are actually the thoughts of most people in the world.
As long as you run faster than others, it is not a problem at all, but as everyone knows, in this process, there are other people making rapid progress in places that Daming cannot see, waiting for the other party to get it. When they came over with foreign guns and cannons, the land of China was more than a little behind.
People will only be afraid if the knife falls on their neck.
Xia Zhibai said: "I can understand your Highness's thoughts, but I just don't agree with them."
"Throughout history, when the barbarians were powerful, there was a saying in the world that 'one barbarian was like five Han people'. But when the Central Plains was strong and powerful, this saying became 'one Han was like five barbarians' , these statements are all well-founded. "
"It depends on the equipment."
"With the help of equipment, the Central Plains can still be as powerful as the Hu people in riding and shooting. , no one can do it.”
“When the Mongols went south, they almost overran the Central Plains with the help of their equipment.”
“Now the Ming Dynasty’s equipment and equipment are far superior. Mongols?”
Zhu Di was silent.
Of course there is no such thing.
Xia Zhibai asked again: "Is it possible for the Ming Dynasty to defeat Mongolia in a battle? Is it possible to resolve the long-term turmoil in the North with a battle?"
Zhu Di remained silent.
Xia Zhibai sneered: "Since there are none, it is destined to be a protracted war."
"If we go by what the Qianhu general said just now, fighting one war after another will probably cost much more than hundreds of thousands or millions of silver taels. How many families will be affected by these wars? Broken? How many soldiers will be injured or even killed? "
"If weapons and equipment cannot widen the gap, that means the battle loss ratio will not be low."
"There will be considerable difficulties in both defense and attack." "Have Your Highness and the generals really calculated the cost of money and food?"
"One after another, one after another. In the successive wars, is it true that the Ming Dynasty only counts small accounts and does not look at the long-term big accounts? The depression in the North, the further decline of the population, and the further deterioration of local livelihoods are far more shocking than the money and food in the accounts. .”
“The account cannot be calculated like this.”
“Investing in firearms will indeed not be low cost.”
“But it can give Ming a more stable, secure and secure place. environment.”
“This is more important than money.”
“This is confidence!”
"It is a powerful deterrent."
"Today's Ming Dynasty is big but not strong. If it is really strong, it should be like the Han and Tang Dynasties, making all parties submit, and no one dares to be an enemy. "
"But no matter how much you say now, I am afraid that His Highness and the generals will not listen."
"His Highness and the generals under his command have long developed their own routine. My thoughts on leading troops to fight will not change because of my few words, but I can also tell your highness that there is also a problem with your fighting ideas."
"At least a little bit behind the current situation. ”
"Today's war is a bit too stupid, and a bit too rigid."
"It relies heavily on on-the-spot decisions."
"Acumen for war, and control of fighter aircraft. There are great deficiencies in control and control. "
"In the final analysis, the generals of the Ming Dynasty lacked systematic study and research, and they did not have that much control over combat techniques and tactics. ”
“Most of the time, I almost rely on instinct and the fighting talent accumulated from battle after battle. This kind of talent is indeed enviable and awe-inspiring, but this kind of Talent is not enough to win a large-scale war.”
"Because it is not rigorous enough and detailed enough."
"The deployment of troops, timing, combat literacy and other aspects cannot support the big scene."
"There are also the generals in the army. Various techniques and tactics have hardly been widely exchanged. It is still you who fight your way, and I fight my own way. There is no mutual learning and reference. For example, it is known that the Marquis of Xiping once used a method when pacifying Yunnan. The techniques and tactics of the three-stage shooting method are very simple. Specifically, three people form a group, and the front musketeer shoots first, and then retreats. They went to the rear of the team to concentrate on loading ammunition, and the second soldier stepped forward to fire. The three of them took turns loading and firing, which tripled the efficiency of the matchlock gun that originally took a minute or more to fire."
"The battlefield firepower and deterrence have been greatly enhanced."
"But this kind of technique and tactics is still only used by Mu Ying."
"Other generals rarely use it."< br>
"In addition, King Ninghe also used a chariot in the battle to destroy Xia and Shu. However, this chariot was different from the previous chariots. It was more like a firearm. "
"It is equipped with a lot of firearms and artillery, but the chariot in the hands of Ninghe King Deng Yu is a bit rough and very heavy, but this strategy of defeating the captives is very effective in destroying the enemy. In the Battle of Xia and Shu, it played a great role. However, with Deng Yu's death, this technique and tactics were gradually forgotten."
"I don't know much about military affairs."
"I don't dare to discuss any major military affairs, nor do I want to talk about too macro-strategic."
"From the perspective of technology and tactics alone, if I When he comes to take charge of the army, he will definitely implement these techniques and tactics that have achieved results in the army. First of all, the efficiency of using firearms has increased three times, which also means that the lethality has been greatly improved. Although the tanks are still a bit bulky, they are very effective. It's obvious."
"It can avoid arrows and resist horses. It can give full play to its power and use it to defend against the enemy's attack. Either to curb their arrogance, or to stop their laziness, they can transport the city with sufficient strength and drive the horse."
"The Ming Dynasty actually had many weapons and tactics like this."
"But how many of them actually put their knowledge to use?"
They really thought that Xia Zhibai knew nothing about military affairs before.
Only talk on paper.
However, Xia Zhibai was very knowledgeable and told all the tactics used by Mu Ying and Deng Yu. He also praised these techniques and tactics that were supposed to be "flash in the pan". If Xia Zhibai really In charge of the army, he always maintains the mentality of "applying what he has learned", and his military achievements will not be low.
Zhu Di was also a little worried.
He felt that if he gave Xia Zhibai some time, he might not be Xia Zhibai's opponent.
He has been on the battlefield since he was fourteen years old?
Are you afraid of someone who has never fought in a war?
If these words were said out loud, everyone in the world would laugh, but Zhu Di couldn't laugh at all now, because this is really possible.
Xia Zhibai really has no burden at all about using other people's techniques and tactics.
Complete use-ism.
Xia Zhibai glanced at the generals in the palace coldly, and said in a deep voice: "Live until you are old, learn until you are old."
"No matter your highness, or other generals of the Ming Dynasty, success and fame will , I gradually became proud and a little more restrained. I always felt that using other people's things would make me look inferior to others, but how could I care so much about fighting?"
"The purpose of fighting is only one. ”
“It’s Ying!”
(End of this chapter)