Chapter 233 I also understand human nature! (Updated today)
Li Shanchang looked at Xia Zhibai suddenly, with a bad look on his face.
With his status in the court, in the past, whenever he spoke, other ministers except Zhu Yuanzhang would not look at his face. Few people dared to object, but today, Xia Zhibai dared to question it in public.
This made Li Shanchang feel humiliated.
Li Shanchang looked at Xia Zhibai coldly and said in a cold voice: "The imperial court is discussing important matters, is it your turn to make irresponsible remarks?"
"And you think that I, the grand master, do not have a clear view of the affairs of the world as you do?"
Neither humble nor arrogant, Xia Zhibai bowed his hands towards Li Shanchang, showing all courtesy, and said calmly: "The affairs of the country, How can we rank according to seniority? If the world is based on who is older and who has higher qualifications, then the people standing in the court discussing politics at this moment should not be the ministers, but the oldest people in the world. "
“But they are not the ones in the court at this moment.”
“Because the country is not governed by age.”
“As for the reality.”
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"Besides."
"What governs the country depends on the actual situation, how can we be obsessed with the speed of words?"
"Since the Grand Master thinks what I said is wrong, then I should take it myself. My argument is used to prove that what I said is true."
"It is also better than what the grand master put forward."
"In the eyes of the grand master and other ministers, the southern one. Things should be stopped as soon as possible, but I don't think that everything has a cause and effect. If we deal with it so hastily, it will just delay the conflict."
"Now that the Ming Dynasty has been established, everything is waiting to be revitalized. When the ministers are working hard to govern, they should also have the determination to face all difficulties and obstacles."
"It is even more important that resolving conflicts and problems should be the primary responsibility of ministers."
"The matter in the south should not be treated casually."
"It should be dealt with seriously!"
Xia Zhibai did not give in at all and argued hard with reason.
Li Shan waved his long sleeve and snorted coldly: "Then I want to see, what else are you doing?!"
Xia Zhibai smiled and said slowly: "Those who don't plan for eternity, It is not enough to plan for a moment; it is not enough to plan for a region if you do not plan for the overall situation."
"The same is true for governing a country."
"Especially as officials of the imperial court, we should take the world as our own responsibility and the world as our own. The goal is long-term peace and stability.”
“What the Grand Master just said can indeed prevent disputes to a great extent.”
"But it did not solve the actual problem."
"Because in the end, the court paid the bill. The court allocated money and food to maintain the livelihood of these kitchen households. However, people are greedy, and these kitchen households never used it. If you work, you will get money and food from the court. I am afraid that you will be more slack and lazy in the future, and you will have no intention of making a living. "
"Is the tax and food from the Ming Dynasty used to support lazy people?"
"If not."
"In one or two years, might the court arrange enough work for these kitchen households, or allocate enough fields?"
"I'm afraid it can't be done."
"That basically means that for the sake of stability, the imperial court can only continue to provide support, or the imperial court can borrow grain, but these people have no jobs, and it won't take long before they have to If we don’t sell our houses and children to pay off our debts, how could our Ming Dynasty be reduced to this state?”
“Otherwise, the government would be cruel”
“Just clean up the population.”
< br>“Kill!”
"However, the world has just recovered from the war, and its livelihood has been withered. With so many people killed, it is even more difficult to recover."
"People are a very important resource."
"Even if It’s easy to see even if it’s not a detailed account.”
“Zao households will become a problem for Ming Dynasty.” Solve it when the situation is strong.”
"Because now is the best time to solve it."
"The imperial court has been moving people from the south to the north. Does that mean that moving these kitchen households to the north is in line with the internal affairs of the Ming Dynasty?"< br>
Li Shanchang’s eyes darkened.
Xia Zhibai said again: "Most of the fields in the south are owned by owners. Even if they can be allocated to these kitchen households, how much can they get? In the north, these can even be allocated to ten acres per family. This amount of land, even if the yield in the north is less than that in the south, can still bring a lot of land rent to the court."
"Why wouldn't the court do it?"
"In addition."
"Your Majesty has been committed to bridging the north and the south."
"When southerners go north, why won't they speed up the integration of the north and the south?"
"The north is vast. But in these years, there has been a mixture of Hu and Han. Although there are many Han people, they have not formed an overwhelming advantage. Who can guarantee that these Mongols, Jurchens, and Semu people will not suddenly switch sides in the future? "
"Using the Han to control the barbarians is the right way."
"But how much can be achieved by relying solely on the Han people in the north? Without enriching the Han people in the north, it will take a lot of time for the court to truly use the Han people to control the barbarians. Wouldn't this increase the instability in the north?"
“Many people in the north are already attracted to the Northern Yuan Dynasty, how can the imperial court give it a try?”
“So in my opinion, whether it is political accounts, economic accounts, or strategic accounts, it will be Moving Zaohu to the north is the best choice."
"In addition, I also agree with Deputy Tian Yun's idea."
"The Salt Transportation Department was mainly responsible in the past. 'Production and marketing'."
"But now that 'production and marketing' has gradually fallen into the hands of the 'salt factory', the Salt Transportation Department has only played a tax collection role. This has greatly reduced the functions of the Salt Transportation Department. Therefore, as an official office appointed by the imperial court, , we should take back the stolen 'powers' and seize the right to know and control the 'production and marketing' in our hands."
"Then, under the overall planning of the salt transportation departments of various places, we will realize the Ming Dynasty Salt Administration. "
"If there is a shortage of salt in the south, the north can provide immediate relief. If there is a shortage of salt in the north, the south can also provide prompt relief. Or if there is an accident, other salt transportation departments within the jurisdiction can also dispatch orders. Salt factory, increase production and supply to other places as soon as possible."
"This will go a long way in ensuring the supply of salt in the Ming Dynasty."
"As for the Taishi's question about setting up a large factory." br>
"This is even more unreasonable."
"Because the larger the scale, the higher the output, the more cost-effective it can be."
"The larger the salt factory, the greater the initial investment, but with this At the same time, expenses will become less and less in the future. In the future, whether it is transportation or production, the cost will be lower than that of a small salt factory. Therefore, the bigger the factory, the more profitable it will be.”
“I am. I should have a say in running the salt factory."
Li Shanchang's face turned dark when he heard Xia Zhibai's words.
He raised his eyes and looked at Zhu Yuanzhang, trying to see some clues from Zhu Yuanzhang's face, but with just one glance, Li Shanchang secretly thought something was wrong, because Zhu Yuanzhang was obviously moved by Xia Zhibai's words. Thinking of this, Li Shanchang couldn't help but continue: "You The calculations are all small. "
"It may not be so good when implemented."
"The place is already in turmoil. If the imperial court sends people to announce it again, they will be punished. When they move to the north, do you think they will stop, or will the trouble become more serious? They are only targeting the salt factory, and they may take action against the government."
"You take the stakes seriously. Have you ever thought about it?”
“And it’s not that easy to move people.”
"You have considered many aspects, and from the perspective of the court, it makes sense."
"But you have ignored a very important factor."
"Human nature!"
“It is difficult to move to the homeland.”
“This is China’s inherent problem.”
"They still have a place to stay in the south, but when they go to the north, they really have nothing, and they have nothing to eat and drink on the way. If something happens, is this acceptable to these kitchen families?"
"You are so ideal." Xia Zhibai nodded.
He must admit this.
It has always been difficult for people to relocate in China.
There is a lot of work to be done.
He looked at Li Shanchang and said in a deep voice: "What the Grand Master said is absolutely true. I have also considered this. I don't know how long the turmoil in the south has been happening, and I don't know that these kitchen households have shrunk their clothes. How long have they been eating, and I don’t know how much food they have at home.”
“But I also know human nature.”
“The grand master thinks that these kitchen households will not move north because they have concerns in the south. "
"But I am also sure that in half a month or early January, these kitchen households in the south will be homeless. This is also because of human nature. They are now in trouble, and the local people Gentlemen, merchants, and even officials would not provide help in times of need, but would only add insult to injury and take away their houses at very low prices and with very little food.”
"Zhao households have lost their livelihood and want to support their family. They are destined to be plotted against."
"This is also human nature!"
"So."
" The Grand Master is overly concerned.”
“They don’t have that much property in the south.”
"What little nostalgia they had has long since disappeared under this layer of oppression and the government's coercion and inducement. The longer this turmoil lasts, the more serious the disappointment in their hearts will be. Isn't this It can be bridged day and night."
"There is a saying in the art of war: a sad soldier will win"
"The Zaohu in the south are becoming a 'sad soldier' step by step! >A flash of annoyance flashed in Li Shanchang's eyes.
He also didn’t expect that Xia Zhibai would be so difficult to deal with.
The key point is quite reasonable.
Xia Zhibai bowed his hands to Zhu Yuanzhang and said: "As for the grand master's worry about not being able to persuade him, I would like to take the initiative to ask for an order from your majesty and go south to persuade the kitchen households to agree to go north. However, I sincerely believe that the salt of the Ming Dynasty The government must undergo a thorough reform."
"Otherwise this chaos will continue."
"The Ming Dynasty is a unified dynasty and must not have two opinions."
“Your Majesty, please give me a clear warning.”
At this time.
Tian Jing also said loudly: "Your Majesty, please give me a clear warning."
He had already risked his life.
This time, there is no way out.
There is only one way to go to the end, and since you have opened your mouth, there is no room for maneuver. Even if you want to turn back, no one will tolerate it. In this case, why bother asking for trouble again? As a literati, although he has a somewhat impatient and timid temperament, he still has a bloody spirit deep in his bones.
He knows what is right and what is wrong.
The only voices in the hall were Xia Zhibai and Tian Jing.
The rest of the ministers were silent.
They looked at each other, all looking at each other.
The direction of this court meeting was completely beyond their expectations. Tian Jing's sudden attack and Xia Zhibai's confrontation all indicated that the court was changing, and they had been in the officialdom for so long. , how can you really know nothing about things in the dark?
Because of this.
They are even more unwilling to get involved.
Tang He lowered his eyebrows, glanced at the expressionless Zhu Yuanzhang, and frowned slightly.
He knows.
Zhu Yuanzhang was moved.
Moreover, he and Zhu Yuanzhang have known each other since they were children, and they know Zhu Yuanzhang's temper well. If Li Shanchang does not come forward, Zhu Yuanzhang may still hesitate for a moment, but Li Shanchang's opening is destined to make Zhu Yuanzhang no longer obedient, because Zhu Yuanzhang is a very powerful emperor. He does not allow others to intimidate him.
There had been turmoil in the south because of the Guo Huan case.
Now again, if Zhu Yuanzhang retreats again, wouldn’t it make people think that Zhu Yuanzhang is afraid?
This is something Zhu Yuanzhang can never agree to.
As expected.
After a period of dead silence in the hall, Zhu Yuanzhang waved his sleeves and shouted angrily: "That's enough. Our Fengtian Hall is for discussing state affairs, and we are not here to let you argue in front of us. Since you all have your own reasons, then we I’ll give you a chance.”
“After you leave the court, write down your own opinions.”
“We will read them word for word.”
"Retreat!"
Zhu Yuanzhang did not make a direct decision.
As an emperor, he cannot make decisions so easily, especially when his ministers express their opinions in a hurry as soon as they open their mouths. This will make the ministers think that the emperor has no opinions of his own, which is a taboo for a king.
Zhu Yuanzhang would never allow such a thing to happen.
Hearing Zhu Yuanzhang speak, all the officials secretly breathed a sigh of relief.
The atmosphere in the Dangcai Hall was too depressing, making people breathless. Now that they heard Zhu Yuanzhang speak, they felt that the stone that was weighing on their hearts was suddenly lifted, and their whole bodies suddenly It felt a lot more comfortable.
The officials hurriedly said: "Congratulations to your Majesty."
Zhu Yuanzhang slowly walked down the high platform with his hands behind his back and left Fengtian Hall.
After Zhu Yuanzhang left, the other ministers looked at Xia Zhibai and Tian Jing, with a complicated look in their eyes, and left the hall one after another.
Xia Zhibai also did not stop.
It is not that easy to completely change the salt policy.
The interest groups are too big and they will not give up willingly.
He must clearly describe the pros and cons, at least to convince Zhu Yuanzhang that changing the salt policy is imperative, rather than delaying it. Without direct affirmation, Tian Jing's character probably wouldn't be able to hold on.
When the time comes, it will not be enough to resist the Manchu ministers alone and spit out golden lotus.
Soon.
All the officials in the palace left in a hurry.
Tian Jing was still standing in the hall. His legs were numb at the moment and he couldn't move at all.
Wei Heng walked over with an angry look on his face and angrily shouted: "Tian Jing, what do you mean? What did we say before? We went to the meeting together, why did you make your own decision? And what you said was completely different from what was discussed at the time."< br>
“If you want to die, don’t involve us!”
Wei Heng looked shocked and angry.
He is really afraid.
Tian Jing’s words were too destructive.
He also questioned the founding hero and the current imperial master. How dare Tian Jing have the guts to do this?
Tian Jing shook his head, with a pale face, looked at Wei Heng and the others, and said in a trembling voice: "Do you think I want to? But I have no choice. Not only do I have no choice, you also have no choice. You have to choose, have you really not seen it yet?”
“The problem this time is not at all about salt politics, but about the internal strife in the court!”
“We are just other people’s pawns! ”
“But I want to live!”
"So I can only be a lonely minister of the Ming Dynasty."
Black Shinhwa was distracted and had no intention of coding
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