Chapter 134: Card patent, right? Then I will research a patent myself!
"Mr. Luo, the thing I am talking about must be a lithography machine, what else could it be?"
"Of course, it is not just the difficulty of overcoming the lithography machine. , other technologies are also needed!”
“No. The 28nm lithography machine we have studied is about to be successful. By then, I believe that with our continuous efforts, we will be able to find a more powerful EUV lithography machine!”
Ji Shunqing’s tone! There is a kind of heroic meaning in it.
And Ji Shunqing didn't want to talk to Luo Feng about producing 5nm-level chips at all.
Because this seems unlikely.
As for the term "28nm lithography machine", although many people call it that, it actually refers to a lithography machine that can be used for 28nm chip manufacturing, that is, a 193nm argon fluoride laser is used as the light source and a mask is used. Membrane miniature projection.
“Yes, in our country, we have indeed suffered too much in this field, and we have worked hard, but it seems that breakthroughs are not worthy of our efforts, right?”
“Yeah!”
The other party still nodded. This was a good thing. Domestic experts and even officials also gave great support and provided funds.
However, because many technologies are stuck, no matter how hard everyone works, they still cannot really solve the current gap.
I’m really sorry for everyone’s efforts.
Luo Feng saw that the other party seemed not to want to talk about this matter. He was not unhappy, but felt that it was too unusual. He continued to ask: "Mr. Ji, do you think that if the 5nm lithography equipment can be solved? question, are there any other problems? "
Just ask if you don't understand, this is one of Luo Feng's purposes.
Because even if Luo Feng could barely be considered an intellectual, it would be impossible for him to fully understand this field in a short period of time.
I think I am the kind of apprentice who just casually looked at the information and is only an entry-level apprentice in this field.
“If the problem of this photolithography machine can be solved, we will still face many problems. Our wafer fab cannot solve it at all with high-purity crystalline silicon wafers, although we do It has been put into production, but the crystalline silicon produced is obviously different from the advanced technology in the world!"
Seeing that the other party insisted on asking this question, Ji Shunqing naturally answered the question honestly.
It’s not just what I said.
There are too many chip problems, the lack of technology, lack of equipment, and lack of raw materials in the country, which are completely endless.
Otherwise, how could this field be so restricted?
To be honest, many people cannot understand why China can build atomic bombs, make breakthroughs in aerospace technology, and make effective progress in fighter jets and battleships.
But why is such a small thing, just a chip, so troublesome?
Isn’t it because there are too many restrictions?
There's nothing we can do about it.
In any country, if there are too many deficiencies and too many restrictions in a certain technology, then they will be the same. It is difficult to make any major breakthroughs in this field.
"So Xiao Luo, look at this high-purity crystalline silicon wafer."
Long Jianfei looked at Luo Feng at this moment. It seemed that the other party was thinking about the problem. To warm up, he It was also mentioned a little bit.
“Of course I can solve this problem!”
Luo Feng had been recalling just now, recalling what the robot from Tianyuan Planet said and whether there was such a thing.
But thinking about it, there should be relevant technology.
In this case, Luo Feng must have agreed.
“Huh?”
Hearing this, Ji Shunqing’s eyes went straight. Are you kidding me? Can this be solved too? This is unlikely, right?
Then, Ji Shunqing's eyes were not surprised, but a little angry.
After all, for professionals like them, he can better understand that these things are impossible.
If you tell those outsiders, you might be able to deceive them.
At this moment, Ji Shunqing even suspected that the young man in front of him was deliberately trying to trick people, right?
"Haha, Mr. Ji, let's put it this way, I can handle the instrument and the production process, but I am worried that when I bring the things back, it will cause us The consequences of not studying this thing anymore!”
Luo Feng seemed a little angry when he saw this little doctor, and he didn't believe his expression, so he immediately said it seriously.
Luo Feng's eyes were bright at this moment and he said decisively: "If everyone is slacking off by then, or even driving backwards, I might as well not do such a thing!"
These words are direct. Ji Shunqing was stunned. He opened his mouth and said nothing, but he thought about it, organized his words, and then said: "Mr. Luo, given what you said, can these things really be obtained?"
"Of course it is. Yes!" Luo Feng nodded without hesitation.
"Long Lao." Seeing this, Ji Shunqing didn't know what to say and couldn't follow the next sentence at all. He just looked at Long Jianfei.
"Shunqing, you don't know Xiao Luo very well. If he says he can do it, I think you can completely believe Xiao Luo!"
Long Jianfei chuckled and said what he said A mantra that is always on my lips.
If we say this sentence before, it didn’t have that much gold content.
But now, the gold content or trustworthiness of this sentence is very high.
Back and forth, Luo Feng did so many incredible things.
Those precious metal materials at the beginning, indeed, if there is a relationship, it can still be done.
But later, the Raptor, the Ohio nuclear submarine, the desalination project?
These things, one after another, were beyond the imagination of experts, but they were handled by Luo Feng and his team.
So, you can imagine that this sentence has always been on Long Jianfei's lips, and it seems to have become Long Jianfei's first comment on Luo Feng.
"Yes, Mr. Ji, our Mr. Luo, only you can't think of it. Without you, we can't do it!" Seeing this, Zheng Zeyao couldn't help but say something. There are many things going on, Zheng Zeyao They are all in contact, and they must know a lot.
"This."
At this moment, Ji Shunqing looked at Long Jianfei's affirmative and serious tone, and began to hesitate whether to believe the other party.
Ji Shunqing began to look Luo Feng up and down, and found that his eyes were full of perseverance and confidence, with no intention of lying at all.
"Mr. Luo Feng, please forgive me for not believing you, but I would like to ask, if these things can be solved, can you solve the patent problem?"
Ji Shunqing is serious Talking.
Yes, patents are really important. Speaking of this patent, Luo Feng was quite confused and helpless.
He can indeed get the machines, but after getting these instruments, how to produce them, then the next step is the issue of patents.
How to solve this problem, Luo Feng really has no choice.
Don’t look at these two words, they are just two words. They do not involve physical objects, not raw materials, nor equipment.
But he is like a barrier that prevents Dragon Kingdom's chip technology from moving to the forefront of the world, firmly standing in front of it.
Patents are a scary thing.
If you don’t have a patent, you can’t do many things.
"Mr. Luo, you may not know that even if you have the required equipment, it is not possible to produce just by having the equipment. It involves process patents, which we cannot get around."
"Then there's nothing we can do?" Luo Feng frowned and asked.
"Mr. Luo, actually I understand why you ask so many questions." Ji Shunqing said and sighed, "Are you worried that if many things are not done perfectly by then, we will fall into the trap again and make things worse? The dilemma of buying? "
"Yes!" Luo Feng nodded. This thing not only involves equipment, raw materials, but also patents. If it is not done well, the cost will go up. It's better to buy than to make.
It is cheaper for others to make it, but it is so expensive for you to make it.
It’s really better to buy it.
"Actually, there is no way, but for this method, we need to get a set of equipment!" Ji Shunqing saw Luo Feng's eyes showing some reluctance, and he said what he thought of.
"Get a set of equipment?"
"Yes, if you can provide a set of equipment, then we can dismantle it for research. This will greatly reduce our research and development time."
Ji Shunqing just said it casually. He still doesn't believe that Luo Feng has such ability.
But having said that, if you really get it and develop and crack it, then these patents will be yours.
Never be restricted by others again.
"What I mean is, I don't mind providing the machine. What I'm worried about is that your research time is too long and you won't be able to alleviate the current difficult situation as soon as possible!" Luo Feng said with a bitter smile.
In today's world, the price of chips, especially high-end chips, has been soaring.
Even if Ji Shunqing and others obtain actual samples and even a complete set of manufacturing processes, they still have to research and obtain this patent on their own. No one can guarantee how much they will lose in this time. , how much time will it take.
Seeing this, Ji Shunqing thought for a while, and then suddenly said: "Of course, Mr. Luo, if you can provide the equipment and get the chip overseas at the same time? Then."
"Chip? Just a chip? Finished product?"
"Yes!" Ji Shunqing nodded.
“There is no problem with this!” Luo Feng also nodded one after another.
"Huh?" Ji Shunqing was a little surprised, and then Ling Ran said, "If you can provide chips, then these channels are probably abnormal channels, right?"
"Of course! "Luo Feng nodded again.
“If you set up several leather bag companies, obtain chips, and sell them domestically, they will soon cause trouble for you. When the time comes, if one company goes bankrupt, you will have no choice but to find another company. , if the company goes bankrupt again, then we will change companies! But you have brought it up, I think you should be able to accept these things, right?" Ji Shunqing said helplessly, this is something for Luo Feng to consider.
"Uh!"
When Luo Feng saw this, his expression became slightly strange.
When I met this Ji Shunqing just now, I still felt that he was a scholar, but now it seems that he has thick eyebrows and big eyes, why is he so bad?
The first half of this sentence is indeed okay. It is a reminder to Luo Feng of what will happen in the future.
But the last sentence is equivalent to blocking Luo Feng.
What I mean is, Luo Feng, just keep changing companies. After all, you are also serving the country.
Of course, when it comes to his little thoughts, he actually has no selfish motives.
Because of the breakthrough in chip technology, apart from fame, what benefits can they get? Even in order to keep certain things confidential, their names will not be known.
So and so, I just want to develop it quickly considering the limitations of domestic chip technology.
"This is indeed a method, why don't you use it?" Luo Feng chuckled, but then asked, go and set up such a company yourself, and then buy the chips. If you are accused, you can just find another one. .
"No matter how good the method is, it is a fact that there is not enough chip production capacity. And all the manufacturers that are capable of producing high-end chips, that is, it is too inconvenient to monitor! Therefore, our difficulty is not that we can't find a way. But I thought of a way, but couldn't execute it."
Ji Shunqing spread his hands helplessly.
Just like the situation with chips, we obviously have the ability to design a 3nm chip, but because the production process is not up to par, we can’t make it.
Let alone 3nm level, even if it is 7nm level, it still cannot be manufactured.
As for the top chip factories overseas that have such strength, they dare not take the job.
Luo Feng began to think rapidly in his mind at this moment. After a pause, he looked at Long Jianfei and said, "Mr. Long, I want to find a few people to start a trading company overseas. What do you think?"
Long Jianfei also knew what Luo Feng meant, nodded and said, "No problem!"
The two parties did not discuss in detail how to proceed with this matter, and they had a tacit understanding. Ended the topic.
After Luo Feng left, Ji Shunqing asked: "Mr. Long, who is this Mr. Luo? You respect him so much, and can he really do what he said?"
Long Jianfei chuckled, stood up, and patted the other party on the shoulder, "Shunqing, have you forgotten what I told you? I said you can always trust Xiao Luo .”
Ji Shunqing smiled bitterly and did not insist on the question just now, but said, "But Mr. Long, the world's high-end chip manufacturing has long been saturated. Where can he find production capacity?"
" Haha, that's all his business. Since he can agree, I think it's okay!" Long Jianfei thought for a while and said slowly.
Where to find production capacity?
This is indeed a big problem.
But no matter how big the problem is, it is almost no longer a problem when facing this little guy.
Previous Raptor? There are so many things, not all of them are out yet.
When they saw those things, everyone thought it was impossible at first, but in the end, they silently admitted it and silently admitted the impossible fact in front of them.
(End of this chapter)