madman!
This was Jack Ma’s first thought after hearing Wang Donglai’s words.
In the market, Toutiao and Neihan alone have added tens of billions of valuations to Galaxy Technology.
Not to mention the patents held by Galaxy Technology, the patent licensing fees collected from major mobile phone manufacturers every year are also a huge amount of income.
In addition, everyone understands the commercial value of semi-solid-state batteries.
As a result, Wang Donglai, who controlled nearly 100% of Galaxy Technology's shares, actually said that he would use Galaxy Technology to conduct a large-scale social experiment.
Jack Ma simply cannot understand this kind of behavior.
If you don’t make money, if you don’t enjoy it, you still want to share your money to verify your ideas.
What is the difference between this and a madman.
Although I have heard of some of Wang Donglai’s ideas before.
However, after this in-depth communication, Jackma understood more clearly how strange Wang Donglai's idea was.
Yes.
It’s hard to describe Jack Ma. After thinking about it for a long time, he could only use the word strange to describe it.
As a businessman, Wang Donglai does not pay attention to money and provides high wages, benefits and benefits to his employees.
As a scholar, I also focus on business.
As a young man, I don’t like to enjoy myself, I don’t drink, I don’t smoke, I don’t buy luxury cars, I don’t have any high consumption.
As a question writer who was born into a peasant family, Wang Donglai did not show any of the complacency and arrogance shown by someone who has been poor for a long time and suddenly became rich.
It can be said that from all aspects, Wang Donglai does not behave as a person of his age should.
While feeling shocked, Jack Ma could not help but fall silent.
He really didn’t know what to say.
If Wang Donglai is a money-grubbing person, Jack Ma will not be surprised or worried. It is nothing more than ceding some benefits.
If Wang Donglai is a short-sighted person, Jack Ma doesn't care. The main reason why he wants to invest in Galaxy Technology is just to make money.
If Wang Donglai was a pure scholar, it would be simple. With Jack Ma’s rich experience in the business world for many years, he could control it with his hands.
But Wang Donglai is not...
"Mr. Wang, if it were someone else who said this, I would definitely not believe it."
“But when it comes to Mr. Wang, I believe it!”
“But I don’t know if Mr. Wang has ever thought about it, but it’s actually immature for you to do this.”
“Yinhe Technology currently has only tens of thousands of employees. Even if it combines the upstream and downstream of many business lines, the number of employees it can influence is Only hundreds of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people.”
“It is undoubtedly a fantasy to change these people and influence the entire society.”
"And, doing so may not be a good thing for Galaxy Technology."
"Mr. Wang must also know that business activities in modern society are not about one family going it alone, but about cooperation."
"Distributing profits to employees is a good thing, but Ignoring the interests of shareholders can also easily lead to more problems.”
“I’m just saying this. I want to tell Mr. Wang that ideals are beautiful, but reality is very skinny.”
“Some things are integral and structural problems, and the resistance to change is huge and it will take a long time.”
"We are just businessmen. Mr. Wang must also understand what scholars, farmers, industry and commerce say."
"Although we have entered modern society and the status of businessmen has been improved, the status of businessmen is still lower than that of scholars. This means that there are many things that we cannot touch."
"Qianda Mr. Wang once said that when doing business, you need to stay close to the government and stay away from politics.” You should do what you are supposed to do. If you try to touch others, you will most likely end up in a mess.” As I wish."
"If this is the case, I think Mr. Wang might as well embark on an official career and really be able to do this after many years."
"But, as a businessman, if you do these things, the gains will outweigh the losses."
Jekma said very seriously and patiently.
“I understand what Mr. Ma said, but I am still young and I don’t have many material desires. I only live for thirty-six thousand days, so I might as well give it a try bravely, so that I can live up to my experience in this world. "
Wang Donglai said firmly with a slight smile on his face.
Jack Ma took a deep breath and was not discouraged, but continued: "Isn't Mr. Wang afraid that Galaxy Technology will fail?"
Hearing what Jackma said, Wang Donglai laughed even more.
"Mr. Ma, which domestic companies do you think can pose a threat to Galaxy Technology?"
"Is it Warwick? Or Central International? Or the three BAT companies?"
Wang Donglai didn't save face for Jack Ma and asked directly.
However, without waiting for Jackma to answer, Wang Donglai continued to say: "Actually, I am not worried about this at all."
"In terms of efficiency, capitalism has more advantages than feudalism."
"However, what Taizu once said, I think it is right. Many entrepreneurs in our country have even Capitalists are not counted. Capitalists pay attention to efficiency. They only need to As long as employees can create value.”
“However, although many people have received modern education, their core is still the feudal small landowner mentality, which is not worthy of even the big landowners and powerful people, and their attitude towards employees. , as one’s own Serfs are private property. Seeing employees idle is more uncomfortable than killing them, no matter how much benefits the employees can bring or how much profits they create."
"They have only one idea, that is. It’s just that his employees can’t be idle, so Like a slave who sells himself, he cannot stop working as long as he is not dead. "
"Capitalists are not like this. As long as the profits their employees can create are high enough and the benefits they bring are large enough, they can. Offer high wages.”
“As for the so-called entrepreneurs in China, they don’t even understand capitalism. At most, they have a semi-feudal and semi-colonial mentality. They dare not learn capitalism to plunder other countries and accumulate assets. They only dare to stay at home and exploit the people of their own nation. The common people sell their country’s resources cheaply and tyrannize internally. It’s just flattering to the outside world.”
“Such a mentality is destined not to give birth to a great company!”
“Mr. Ma, Taotian Group’s development model has existed in the West. Yes, even Alipay is not a new thing. In my opinion Come on, what Mr. Ma can praise is that Ant Forest has indeed done a good thing.”
“Other things, such as changing banks, promoting the development of logistics, and promoting the online shopping model. Things, even if there is no Mr. Ma, there will still be Mr. Niu, The emergence of Mr. Yang is inevitable when technology develops to a certain stage.”
“How can online shopping develop to this level without a country building a communication network, improving communication and road infrastructure, and realizing network access to rural areas and villages? To such an extent.”
"These huge costs have been borne by the country, which is why Taotian Group has developed rapidly."
"I have no intention to question and belittle Mr. Ma. I am just stating a fact." Jack Ma's face turned dark. Wang Donglai's words were tantamount to completely denying him.
According to Wang Donglai, the undertakings he has done are not worth mentioning at all.
The only thing worthy of praise is the Ant Forest.
He wanted to refute Wang Donglai, but he ended up saying: "It seems that Mr. Wang is very confident in Galaxy Technology."
Wang Donglai did not answer the question directly, but said: "That's not the case. I have confidence in Galaxy Technology, but I have always believed in one thing, that is, the development of productivity should be based on three ways of growing wheat, rather than eight patterns of flower rolls.”
“No matter how good online shopping, social networking, and gaming are, and no matter how high the market value is, the contribution to human civilization is far less than a technological breakthrough.”
“As an enterprise, it should actively assume social responsibilities, and the main body Responsibility.”
“If everything is just to make money, how can such a company be considered a great company?”
"It's not that I have confidence in Galaxy Technology, but I believe that Galaxy Technology is on the right path."
Jack Ma didn't know what he was feeling at the moment.
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There is anger, anger, shock, confusion, and a little bit of confusion.
"Mr. Wang, after saying so much, can I understand that this is a polite rejection of me?"
Jack Ma didn't want to dwell on it anymore, so he asked directly.
Hearing Jack Ma say this, the smile on Wang Donglai’s face did not change.
"Mr. Ma, what I have said is not that I am preparing to reject Mr. Ma, but that I am explaining my philosophy to Mr. Ma."
"Investing in a company, if even the founder It is an irresponsible approach to invest money rashly without understanding people’s thoughts. Mr. Ma should understand.”
“Yinhe Technology is not short of money or financing. Therefore, it is also necessary to examine and screen partners for cooperation and investment. ”
"What I need is someone who accepts my ideas and is willing to work with Galaxy Technology."
"Before this, the amount of capital invested was secondary."
"Mr. Ma, through this conversation, you should also have a relatively comprehensive understanding of me and the bank." He has a clear understanding of the future development of Galaxy Technology.”
“If Mr. Ma can accept my concept and is willing to develop with Galaxy Technology, I will not refuse Mr. Ma’s investment.”
"So, whether or not to invest in shares depends on Mr. Ma's thoughts."
Wang Donglai's meaning was very clear, and this was what he really thought.
A look of deep thought gradually appeared on Jack Ma’s face.
After thinking for a while, I still didn’t make a decision directly.
Originally, before coming, Jack Ma had already made a decision in his heart that he must invest in shares.
However, after listening to Wang Donglai’s words, Jackma couldn’t help but feel a little hesitant in his heart.
Galaxy Technology does have technology and great potential.
However, according to the development model mentioned by Wang Donglai, investing in it may not bring enough profits.
Focus on research and development and want to improve employee wages, benefits and benefits.
No problem with any of this.
Jie Ma gritted his teeth and agreed.
However, Wang Donglai's ideas about other aspects were beyond Jackma's acceptance.
With the valuation of Galaxy Technology, even if Jackma lowers its share requirement, the amount of money it will have to invest is not a small amount.
Therefore, Jack Ma, who had always been decisive in killing, couldn't help but hesitate.
In the end, Jackma decided to put the matter aside for now.
"Mr. Wang, if there are problems with market valuation and share allocation, I have absolutely nothing to say. If you need to add money, you will add money, and if you need to adjust shares, you will adjust shares. But there are none of these. relationship.”
"A real businessman shouldn't think so much. I need to think about it carefully. I hope Mr. Wang can understand."
Wang Donglai nodded and said aloud: "Mr. Ma has concerns. This It’s normal, and I can understand it.”
Wang Donglai knew in his heart that what Jackma said was just an excuse.
Judging from the speech given by Jack Ma on the Bund in later generations, Jack Ma was not an honest businessman.
The waiter contradicted the industrial and commercial department, showing the arrogance of Taotian Group.
In his speech on the Bund, Jack Ma openly attacked the banking system.
The listing of Alipay is a bold act of greed.
Not to mention what Jackma revealed in many speeches.
What's 'I don't care about money, I'm not interested in money', 'My happiest time was when I earned 91 yuan a month as a teacher', 'The biggest mistake in my life was to create Alibaba 'etc.
These words should be listened to in reverse. If anyone thinks this is what Jackma really thinks, that would be too naive.
Some things haven't happened yet, and some golden words haven't appeared yet, so Jack Ma's reputation on the Internet is still very good at this time.
Perhaps, only Wang Donglai will know the true face of Jack Ma.
Just as Wang Donglai was thinking about what Jackma would do in the future, Jackma suddenly asked a question.
“Mr. Wang, will your company’s plans to relax investment restrictions be made public to the outside world?”
Hearing Jack Ma ask this, Wang Donglai instantly understood Jack Ma’s true thoughts. .
"Mr. Ma, this matter is not urgent. Galaxy Technology's current cash flow is relatively healthy and can be turned around. Financing and equity participation is also a major matter and needs to be seriously considered."
"However, I will not keep this news strictly confidential. If it spreads and someone comes to find it, I will not deny it."
At this point, Wang Donglai suddenly thought of something and said: "Ma. Anyway, there is one thing I have to say first, although I don’t really agree with the market valuation of Galaxy Technology, but we still have a rough internal valuation range.”
“And our internal valuation will also change over time. Technology continues to rise with the development of technology, so it is one valuation at this time, and maybe it will be another valuation after a while.” I always feel like I’m trying to raise prices.”
Jack Ma laughed heartily and said: "I understand this, this is normal, I can understand it."
However, Jack Ma did not expect that he would soon say this for himself And regretted it. (End of this chapter)