Chapter 674 Dream Group, something is not right
Li Jie, who finally completed his tactics and drank water, refilled a glass for himself and Chang Haonan respectively, and then hesitated for a moment, showing that he was hesitant to speak. appearance.
"Mr. Chang, there is one more thing..."
Looking at this meaning, it is likely to be followed by a question like "I don't know whether to talk about it or not."
However, considering that both of them have technical backgrounds, this whole thing is a bit redundant, so he finally said directly:
"I would like to ask, is there any business relationship between your company and Dream Group?"
This question seemed to have no connection with the topic just now, which made Chang Haonan stunned for a moment:
"During the centralized purchasing, did I buy their computer host...does it count?"
Should I say it, in this day and age, the accessories in the PC market are basically 100% imported, unlike other products Compared with brands that have to import the entire machine from abroad, Dream Group can at least keep the assembly process in the country, so it eats up most of the market in public budget procurement.
Therefore, although Chang Haonan didn't want to see the other party in his heart, he had no choice.
Moreover, from this perspective, Dream Group made some contribution to China's electronic information industry in the early days.
It’s a pity that it ends here.
“Of course this is not...”
Li Jie waved his hand and couldn’t help but laugh:
“This can only be regarded as a normal business transaction, I mean, like Such cooperation with our Shuguang Group.”
Strictly speaking, it was a bit over the line for him to ask this question.
Although in most cases the cooperation between enterprises will be made public, the outline and launch of the partnership are also considered trade secrets.
If it is two private companies, then it is not a problem for the bosses to sit together and chat about anything. If it is not convenient to answer, just go around in circles and it will be over.
However, Torch Group and Shuguang Group are both second-level state-owned enterprises under the Academy of Sciences system, and they have a completely parallel relationship with each other. Even in terms of business, the former has a closer relationship with the Science and Technology Commission.
That’s why Li Jie was a little hesitant just now.
But Chang Haonan didn't take it seriously.
After all, he had been planning to target the Dream Group two years ago, but he had never told anyone about it.
So he immediately shook his head:
“Such in-depth cooperation is naturally not possible.”
“You also know that Torch Group is not large in scale, and its main business is actually targeted. We provide exclusive technical solutions, so those who do business with us are basically institutions or companies with R&D capabilities..."
After hearing this, Li Jie finally relaxed.
Immediately realized that there was something wrong with Chang Haonan's words, and couldn't help but chuckle -
Those who have dealings with Torch Group are institutions or companies with R&D capabilities.
Isn’t this a subtle hint that Dream Group does not have the ability in this area...
After giving the answer, Chang Haonan also asked with doubts:
"Why did Academician Li suddenly ask about this?"
As a reborn person, he naturally knows that the Dream Group is unreliable.
Furthermore, the situation where the originally smooth foreign trade business of Chinese enterprises was disrupted by insiders introducing external forces has happened countless times in the previous life.
So Chang Haonan still has this vigilance.
But it seems that Li Jie shouldn't be so sensitive.
After all, according to the timeline, the Dream Group at this time should not have become the conscience of American imperialism.
"This is a long story..."
Li Jie's expression, which had been smiling just now, suddenly turned serious:
"You should know that the first two In 2009, the superiors were planning to merge the entire computing institute into the Dream Group, so at that time I was always the deputy director in charge, and the director was always named by the CEO of the Dream Group.”
Chang Haonan nodded, but did not answer. He just motioned for the other party to continue.
"Later, their ambitions grew and they wanted to take over our Shuguang Group as well. At the highest point, they had obtained 20 million of our shares. However, in the end, because our group's revenue suddenly improved in 1997, it was Didn’t let the Dream Group succeed.”
At this point, Li Jie also raised his head and glanced at Chang Haonan.
After all, that wave of supercomputing craze, which came out of nowhere, is still attributed to the latter.
Although after calming down, everyone gradually discovered that without an incredible person like Chang Haonan to take charge of the work, just having a supercomputer would have limited effect, but in any case, Shuguang Group made a profit that time. The huge amount of money has directly reversed the loss trend of several years before.
More importantly, it injected a wave of confidence into the superiors who were originally a little wavering about this bottomless pit of funds.
And Chang Haonan finally understood:
"So, you, or we, have ruined the good things of Dream Group, so Academician Li is worried that they will use some off-board tricks to sabotage it?"
“It’s not just worries.”
Li Jie said solemnly:
“Actually, in business, they want to acquire us, but we don’t want to be acquired. If there is a conflict between the two parties, or the business Struggles are also normal. ”
“But since last year, we have obviously encountered some obstacles when importing computer components, some of which are related to production capacity, some to customs clearance documents, and some to review.”
“ Although there have been no real problems so far, since Mr. Chang hopes to keep a low profile in the electronics industry, he should not only consider foreign countries, but also pay more attention to domestic affairs. Or rather, On the contrary, we should pay more attention at home..." Although he and Chang Haonan have business dealings, they have not had much private communication in the past. He only knows that the latter has extraordinary ability in research, and he does not know about Chang Haonan's series of past events. role in the incident.
That’s why I have such a reminder.
“Don’t worry, I will be careful.”
Chang Haonan naturally knew that the other party meant well, and nodded to express his understanding:
"Besides, I also have experience in dealing with this kind of thing."
Obviously, in this timeline, In the past, due to his series of setbacks, Dream Group encountered development obstacles in China early on.
It is only a matter of time before a conflict occurs.
Before China truly became the world’s factory, the functions played by companies like Dream Group were generally positive.
After all, even if it is an assembly factory, assembling electronic products belongs to the high-tech field and is definitely a valuable industry for China at this stage.
However, when China is no longer satisfied with being the world's factory, these companies that have been used to making money as factories have turned into a dragging role.
This is a structural contradiction.
The more things he does and the greater the role he plays, the sooner China will develop upstream in the international industrial division of labor.
It would be contrary to the interests of the comprador group.
This is actually the same as when he wanted to develop independent aviation industry standards a few years ago, but was blocked by a group of people.
Taking away people’s jobs is like killing their parents.
However, at that time, Chang Haonan was just a little Kalami with little energy.
Even using the influence of the Science and Technology Commission has to be done through Du Yishan.
There is not much that can be done.
Therefore, most of the pressure and the specific countermeasures he came up with were all done by Ding Gaoheng.
But now, times have changed.
In the Boeing merger and acquisition, as well as the upcoming Allied Forces Operation, even Americans dare to have a hand in it, let alone a dream group that has not even fully committed to the United States...
"Academician Li."
Chang Haonan's character is the kind that can not compete for short-term gains and losses, but must determine the long-term victory or defeat. At that moment, he already had the idea of sitting down the Dream Group:< br>
"I wonder if your company is interested in developing into areas other than commercial servers and supercomputing?"
Li Jie looked at Chang Haonan with a slightly curious look, but nodded honestly:
< br>"Of course there is. After the previous popularity of supercomputing and servers, the market is a bit oversaturated. It would be good if the number of new orders can be maintained without falling. If you want to further improve it, either do what you just said. , find ways to open up overseas markets, or expand other businesses horizontally.”
“However, in areas other than commercial machines, we really have no resources... Take the PC market, which has the largest profit margin. , the layout has already been completed for those who should enter. If we end up, firstly, the superiors may not approve this kind of repetitive construction, and secondly, we can only pick up some scraps that other manufacturers do not want..."
Objective Frankly speaking, Dream Group is indeed in good momentum at the moment, and it is very difficult to come back against the odds and make a comeback in the opponent's advantageous game.
The opportunity is that in a few years, China's government and enterprise procurement will try to introduce localization indicators for the first time, especially the localization of operating systems.
In the original timeline, this first attempt was ultimately unsuccessful.
But there is still a chance now.
Therefore, what Chang Haonan wanted to do was originally a roundabout strategy:
“In the PC area, it is really unrealistic to compete head-on with those companies right away.”
"However, as you mentioned before, we have established a joint venture with an Italian machine tool company, and we are responsible for the industrial control part."
"But the software is indeed We wrote it ourselves, but the hardware still has to be purchased from imported models..."
Having said this, how could Li Jie still not understand:
"You mean from Industrial control equipment, microcontrollers and the like..."
"But the level of domestic hardware..."
Of course, Chang Haonan had already prepared a draft:
“High-end products are definitely not good now, but we can start from the low-end.”
“No matter how high or low the level is, we still have to first develop the domestic industry. Once the ecosystem is established, the entire semiconductor industry chain cannot be supported by selling supercomputers and servers alone..."
"Do you still have a low-end model product line?"
Li Jie The focus is a little different:
"I heard someone say before that the first product you launched was something that has never been produced in China before."
Chang Haonan waved his hand:
"It was done with Italy. There is definitely no joint venture. We need to rely on that to create brand influence, so the first three-axis CNC machining center released is the lowest model.”
“But in the future, an industrial control division may be established to specialize in the market. Other machine tool companies, especially domestic machine tool companies, provide solutions for converting ordinary machine tools into CNC machine tools. This area is definitely focused on low-end business.”
“Although our country’s machine tool strength is not strong, it is. The output is actually not low. If we seize this business, although the profit margin is relatively poor, it will not be a problem to support the upstream and downstream industries. ”
"When the talent level improves, and then return to the PC market with a high localization rate as a selling point, although it may not be attractive to personal business, it is enough to only eat the cake of procurement from sensitive units..."
< br>(End of this chapter)