Chapter 272 Podcast from Competitors
“No, I don’t think so. First of all, China’s third-generation perovskite battery technology has not yet announced specific parameters, and we cannot determine the gap with them. How big is it?
Secondly, the underlying technical logic is the same, but the parameters are lagging behind and we have a chance to catch up.
I think the gap between them is definitely larger than the previous ones. The gap between Nianhuaguo and us in semiconductors is even smaller.
We have gone from zero to one in terms of technology, and there is hope for subsequent catch-up.
It is not like room-temperature superconductivity or topological semimetal. The latter is not bad and is a traceable product. The former is completely full of God's favor.
If God does not care and we are unlucky, we may not be able to create it in a hundred years. "Frank expressed optimism about the perovskite battery industry and pessimism about room temperature superconductivity at the same time.
Mitai, who was sitting next to him, looked shocked: "Is room temperature superconductivity so difficult?
Didn’t Wright publish the principle of their technical synthesis route? I watch reports from CNN and Fox, and they often report on some of the latest technological advances in room-temperature superconductivity in major domestic laboratories. "
Frank pursed his lips: "Yes, it is so difficult.
You know, the domestic media is very fond of selective reporting.
The reports by CNN and Fox are correct, but they did not tell you the premise.
For example, there are 1 million ways to synthesize room-temperature superconductors, and we exclude 10,000 ways every year. Do you think there is any progress? Yes, it is honestly a lot of work to eliminate 10,000 types, which is no small achievement.
But it is still far away from success, because theoretically, the successful synthesis method may be the millionth one, which means it will take you 100 years.
What's more, there may be more than one million technical routes for room temperature superconductivity. ”
When American media manipulates issues, their technical methods are much more sophisticated than those of China.
China is just not reporting it and pretending to be dead. Anyway, you won’t see me pretending to be dead.
America Media adopts a completely new set of tactics. For example, if someone is assassinated, they report that someone was scratched by fragments of a teleprompter without mentioning that there was a shooter at the scene.
Then I mentioned that a gunman from a certain terrorist organization carried out a shooting. The shooting actually happened in New York, and someone was assassinated in Washington. Put the two news together on the page.
It is natural for the audience to think that the assassination of someone is an act of a terrorist organization.
"So there is a problem with the technical route announced by Wright?" Ted knew that the audience liked to hear this kind of content.
“Of course not. Wright’s paper has been rigorously demonstrated and there is no problem in theory.
His paper seems to tell everyone that water can be decomposed into hydrogen and oxygen. Is it wrong? No, water can indeed be broken down into these two components. But would it be useful to tell you this a thousand years ago? People didn’t know how to break it down even if they racked their brains. into oxygen and hydrogen
Because direct current was not discovered by Franklin until the 17th century, and it could not be stably applied until the 18th century.
Even if people knew it earlier, there was no way to put this theory to use.
The theory cannot find any loopholes, but you cannot reproduce it through this theory. China has relied on this theory to prepare room temperature superconductors on a large scale. "Frank used a metaphor to explain to Ted and the audience.
"I have heard similar opinions to your statement.
But China has already done it. Whether it is a quantum computer or a superconducting electromagnetic launch device, these are indisputable facts. The samples China provided to France have also been fully verified and there are no problems.
How did Hua do it? ”
From theory to laboratory to industrialization, there are huge gaps at every step.
Frank smiled bitterly: "I don't know, I really don't know."
There are various speculations in the market, including China obtaining alien technology, obtaining God's revelation, and there are also coincidences , I think only the Chinese know the truth behind it.
But it is really difficult.
Normal temperature superconductivity is like the Chinese building a huge building out of thin air. The city has basically nothing to do with the scattered buildings on the plain before.
The only relationship may be the invention of LK99 by the Koreans.
I think it is difficult for the Koreans themselves to understand that although we invented LK99, we have not figured out how to develop LK99 into room temperature superconducting. We are already using room temperature superconductivity.
As for perovskite batteries, they are also building a city, and the Chinese have inherited the legacy of the previous academic and industrial circles.
This is all traceable. Because the subdivision of perovskite batteries has been developed in academia for many years, it is a very mature field and there are many papers for reference.
We first made silicon-based materials. At that time we always believed in silicon. The first note we printed for the company was ‘Don’t Lose to Stone’ and had a silicon symbol on the back. It wasn't actually popular at the time.
Because there were nearly 200 solar startups at the time, many of them working on alternative materials. We were one of the few survivors from that group of companies, silicon was here to stay, and now we're more dominant than ever.
And now someone is standing in front of us telling us that perovskites are the future. We no longer need to doubt which path is right, we just need to follow the steps of our predecessors.
If we use numbers to measure difficulty, the difficulty of perovskite batteries is at most 10, and that of room temperature superconductors is 10,000. ”
Don’t think that the United States will not cross the river by feeling for stones. The industrial sector of the United States has often tried to cross the river by feeling for Germany.
“After listening to the experts’ opinions, I am very convinced that Amerikan The photovoltaic industry is much more confident. "Mitai joked.
Frank said: “Of course, I have always been very confident in it.
It’s just that I think our government’s support is far behind China’s.
We should increase our efforts in
I mentioned before that I have been to China frequently in the past two or three years. China has its own talent advantages. Of course, we can also take advantage of China's talent advantages.
The White House's directive quickly smoothed the imbalance in talent competition between us.
But China has always had subsidies, and this kind of subsidies used to make it difficult for foreign competitors to compete. Now that China has achieved technological leadership, they still use subsidies.
Compared with China, Americen’s subsidies have neither reached the hands of enterprises that really need subsidies, nor have they had the desired effect. "
Mitai was very interested in this: "Can you tell me in detail? "
"Of course, China is like drip irrigation, it is a very targeted subsidy. "Frank said.
People always choose to say things that are beneficial to themselves. Frank would not say that before this, China was also flooded with floods. In the past, photovoltaic companies had to rely on subsidies. In order to survive, it took batch after batch to appear in its current form
"And our subsidies are completely decided by the White House. It says you are the photovoltaic company that it wants to support. Even if your photovoltaic business only accounts for one percent of your total business, it can give you a higher price than other companies whose business is 100% photovoltaic. Higher subsidies.
A small area of farmland will be heavily watered, while other larger areas will receive little or no water.
I think the White House has to adjust in this regard.
In fact, we feel that the photovoltaic industry has become much better in the past ten years.
And we need to take a substantive approach to climate change now. Photovoltaics must be an important part of the solution.
As a people, a country, and a species, we must recognize that climate change is a problem that needs to be solved. You need to incentivize businesses to come up with solutions rather than continuing with the way we currently produce energy. ”
This is an accusation against the current White House.
To be honest, if it weren’t for the breakthrough technological advancements in China’s photovoltaic industry, which put great pressure on this White House, they would not have been able to get subsidies at all.
They can’t even get this random subsidy.
Because this White House is not interested in new energy at all, they are even more interested in traditional energy.
So the people working in the Americen photovoltaic industry are grateful to China. Without China, they would have died long ago.
“So you think that if we continue to invest in the photovoltaic industry, it can help us improve the current climate problem?” Ted asked.
“Of course, China’s goal is to realize that photovoltaics account for more than 50% of their energy by 2060.
Now looking at it, this goal is estimated to be before 2040 It can be achieved, and our Chinese counterparts are very confident about this
In many fields, Europe is unwilling to allow Chinese manufacturing to occupy their market. Only in the photovoltaic field, Europe is very cooperative.
Because they know that they can only buy products from China. No matter how important the slogan is, they must face reality.
When everyone starts to use photovoltaics, petrochemical energy will slowly decline. We must face this reality.
This is not only a climate issue, but also an issue of industrial change. Amerikan cannot ignore it, let alone be absent from this industrial change. ”
But even if Americen subsidizes these companies, can they catch up?
I'm afraid it's difficult.
Because Amerikan’s problem is systemic and cannot be solved by subsidies.
The topic of red necks is very popular in America and even around the world. Through Vance's book "Redneck Elegy", you can get a glimpse of the existence of red necks themselves in the decline of America's manufacturing industry. problem.
In Vance’s eyes, the problems faced by rednecks have little to do with their income.
He was born in the Appalachian mountains, a place where men received government relief, worked reluctantly, drank, beat their wives and children, and finally abandoned their wives and children.
Quarrels, drug abuse, divorce, promiscuity, alcoholism, and violence are normal conditions in life
He wrote at the beginning of this book:
“A company has 12 employees, and their wages are still high. Not bad, the annual income was 32,000 US dollars, and the monthly rent of a good apartment at that time was only 500 US dollars. The income was high but the price was not high.
But it was difficult for the company to recruit warehouse managers. Among them is a 19-year-old employee named Bob, who works in this company with his girlfriend,
His girlfriend was pregnant at the time, and the company was very kind to them. They arranged a job for his girlfriend to answer the phone. However, these two performed very poorly in the company.
Bob is late every day.
He has to go to the toilet 3 to 4 times a day, and each time takes more than half an hour. This basically takes 2 hours a day just to go to the toilet. .
His girlfriend doesn’t even want to do the job of connecting the phone, and skips work every two days without prior notice.
In the end, Bob was fired. When he was fired, Bob yelled at the manager: How could you do this to me! Don’t you know my girlfriend is pregnant? ”
With such labor quality, even if the photovoltaic industry returns to Amerikan, the problem of red necks will not be solved.
CubicPV can recruit engineers from China, but can they recruit front-line workers from China?
Obviously not.
So even if CubicPV spends a lot of money to build an unmanned factory and gives money to artificial intelligence companies, they are not willing to recruit ordinary workers.
If TSMC had understood this earlier and used all 4v engineers and artificial intelligence from the island, their factory in Amerikan would have been put into production long ago.
The problems of China and America are similar. It is a lie that the people at the bottom of China's industrial upgrading can get a share of the cake. It is also a lie that the manufacturing industry will return to America and the living conditions of the red necks will improve.
However, the difference between the two is that the people at the bottom of China cannot get a piece of the cake because of the distribution method. Most of the groups here can be regarded as first-class labor force no matter which country they are placed in.
The problem of red necks cannot be solved, it is essentially caused by themselves.
After the podcast was broadcast, it didn’t even cause a splash. Instead, it was forwarded to Bilibili by a certain up in China, and after adding subtitles, it gained a lot of views.
“The guest in this podcast episode is the CEO of a photovoltaic company invested by Bill Gates, an alumnus of Guangshen, and an absolute powerhouse.”
"After watching this podcast, I can only say that room temperature superconductivity is really difficult, and it comes from the certification of the United States."
"It's not surprising that the Korean guys who invented LK99 moved their families to America." Yes, I don’t know if I went there on my own initiative or passively.
Didn’t some up-player go exploring in the area before they launched LK99 and were taken away by the Korean police? They are no longer in Goryeo, let them not go.
That damn place has been turned into a protected area.” Regarding normal temperature superconductivity, I can’t even imagine how China in parallel time and space can compete head-on.
The old Americans give you Zenith Star technology every now and then, but you have no choice but to watch.
For example, the Shenzhou-Guangjia was launched by SpaceX, and the room-temperature superconducting electromagnetic launch tower built by NASA, the domestic homo sapiens have reached a climax. "
" Damn, stop talking, I can't even think about it. I saw some weirdoes on Twitter writing a short article similar to "The Man in the High Castle", which described Amerikan's ability to control normal temperatures. Timeline of superconducting technology, if anyone is interested, I will look for the link. "
"No wonder the foreign gangsters are asking us to disclose the room temperature superconducting technology. The probability is one in a million, so you are not allowed to disclose it. ”
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