Chapter 2407
Judging from the content of the message sent back by Qian Tiandun, it was clearly pointed out that the Manchu Qing Dynasty's request for an armistice was to prepare for a comprehensive armistice with Haihan in all regions, but the armistice did not include other countries. This shows that The Manchu and Qing Dynasties did not intend to cease war with neighboring countries such as Ming Dynasty and North Korea. Haihan wanted to include the Ming Dynasty and North Korea as the armistice objects of the Manchu and Qing Dynasties in the peace negotiation conditions, but I am afraid that the Manchu and Qing Dynasties would not accept it. This truth is not complicated. Tao Donglai let everyone present understand the reason without wasting much effort.
"North Korea has just changed to a new king. Anyone with a discerning eye knows that this new king was supported by us, and our country has many large-scale industrial projects under construction in North Korea. If Huang Taiji does not want to provoke us, then there is the possibility of sending large-scale troops to North Korea. It’s not big anymore.” Yan Chujie analyzed: “The Ming Dynasty is more dangerous. As Lao Tao just analyzed, the Manchu and Qing Dynasties should have seen the gap between the Ming Dynasty and our country, so they used the truce and peace talks to separate our country. Relationship with Ming Dynasty ”
"The armistice is good for our country and bad for the Ming Dynasty, so in fact, the two sides are still wrestling with the Ming Dynasty and the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and we are just the seesaw in the middle." Tao Donglai continued what Yan Chujie said: "What we have to do is to start from both sides. While striving for more benefits, we must also try to keep the situation balanced and not let one party easily gain the upper hand.”
"This bowl of water is not so easy to level." Ning Qi responded thoughtfully: "The situation in the north is now significantly different from the original history. The Manchu and Qing Dynasties have obtained more advanced technology from overseas. Military technology, this may make the Qing army’s strength grow rapidly. Whether the Ming Dynasty can hold on, it’s hard to say!”
Yan Chujie snorted coldly and said: "If people don't save themselves, God will not save them. Daming also knows that as long as they ask us for help, there is a chance of a comeback, but they plan to go all the way to the dark side. What can you do?"
Haihan was extremely disappointed with the Ming Dynasty's performance during the invasion by the Qing Dynasty. The Ming Dynasty neither organized a decent defense nor requested assistance from Haihan in a timely manner. The entire resistance process was a mess. Even if it is difficult for Haihan to send troops deep into the interior to confront the main force of the Qing army on the frontal battlefield, if the Ming Dynasty had asked for help earlier, Haihan could have organized an armed fleet to sail upstream from the mouth of the Yellow River and carry out attacks on the Qing army in the area where it crossed the river. blow. If the timing is right, it might be possible to deter the Qing army from crossing the river and save the city of Jinan on the south bank of the Yellow River.
But in fact, it was not until the Qing army bypassed the capital and approached Shandong that Haihan knew that all the defensive measures deployed by the Ming Dynasty in the north had been broken down and could no longer stop the Qing army from wreaking havoc. But even so, the Ming Dynasty did not make any statement to ask for help from Haihan, which also reflected the Ming Dynasty's deep scruples about Haihan, which was probably no less hostile to the Manchus.
If Ming Dynasty didn't ask for help, it would be difficult for Haihan to take the initiative to send troops to intervene. These fighting areas are hundreds of miles away from the Haihan military base, and most of them are inland. Without the full cooperation of Ming Dynasty, Haihan will never send his own elite to take risks in such an environment. But as long as such large-scale invasions occur a few more times and Ming Dynasty is still so weak, the Manchu Qing Dynasty will probably truly realize the possibility of replacing Ming Dynasty in ruling the world.
"The problem lies here. Even if we are willing to provide some form of military assistance to Ming Dynasty, Ming Dynasty may not be willing to accept it." Tao Donglai further explained Yan Chujie's words: "We cannot confirm Ming Dynasty's attitude yet. , but I personally feel that it is not optimistic.”
If Ming Dynasty is unwilling to compromise, it will be difficult for Haihan to obtain more benefits from Ming Dynasty by hyping up the armistice and peace talks. However, the Ming Dynasty could break the pot, but for the sake of its own development, Haihan could not just sit back and watch the Ming Dynasty collapse under the iron heel of the Manchu Qing Dynasty. He had to find ways to help the Ming Dynasty maintain its rule.
Tao Donglai continued: "So the measures we need to take now are to put pressure on the Ming Dynasty. We must attract their attention to the change in the Manchu and Qing attitude. We must make them realize that once our country ceases war with the Manchu Qing Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty will What a difficult situation we will face! ”
There was silence in the conference room for a while, and then Ning Qi's voice was heard again: "You really can't shed tears until you see the coffin! Even if you are pretending, you have to show it to Ming Dynasty first. You have to let those people in the Ming court Realize that we will really sit down and negotiate an armistice with the Manchus.”
"If this is the case, then Tom Wang may have to go to Jinzhou to preside over the negotiations." Gu Kai added: "It would be more logical for Tom to represent the executive committee and change the name."
Wang Tom is not only a military boss, but also the only current executive member of the executive committee who is in the north. It doesn't take much time to get to Jinzhou from North Korea. If negotiations were to begin with the Manchus in the name of the Executive Committee, it would indeed be more formal for Tom Wang to come forward.
"But if Ming Dynasty wants to start a high-level dialogue with us after realizing the seriousness of the problem, can Wang Tom handle it alone in Jinzhou?" Bai Kesi questioned this.
Of course, what he questioned was not Wang Tom's military quality, but whether Wang Tom had enough diplomatic skills to deal with the Manchu and Ming Dynasties at the same time. He not only had to win more benefits for Haihan from his negotiating opponents, but also let him Northeast Asia continues to maintain the kind of delicate balance needed for Haihan.
Yan Chujie immediately defended his colleagues: "Don't forget, the alliance agreement signed between our country and North Korea was negotiated by Wang Tom himself when he went to Seoul. He was not a layman in diplomacy. And regarding the specific situation in Northeast Asia, I don’t think anyone here can understand it more thoroughly than him. If even he is not qualified, then who else here can be responsible for this work?”
When Haihan signed the alliance agreement with North Korea, it was not all smooth sailing. When Wang Tom went there, he took most of the warships of the Northern Fleet with him and showed some strength to the North Koreans on the Han River outside Seoul. The matter is settled. To say how much diplomacy is involved in this, it is not necessarily true. In the end, it is the powerful force displayed by Haihan that plays the decisive role.
But this time we have to deal with the Manchu and Ming Dynasties at the negotiation table. The final outcome of the negotiation will probably depend on military strength. Yan Chujie was aware of this, so he did not want the Executive Committee to send another person to the north to take charge of this matter, so as not to steal the spotlight from the military. Of course, it is difficult for anyone to take the initiative to leave the comfortable environment of Sanya for a long time, take a boat to Liaodong, which is thousands of miles away, to handle difficult diplomatic negotiations, and to take responsibility for the results of the negotiations. bear. So after Yan Chujie spoke, no one else questioned the person responsible for the negotiations.
But identifying the person responsible for the negotiation is only the first step. Developing a negotiation strategy is the real problem. Since it is still difficult to determine Ming's attitude, it is difficult for the Executive Committee to issue some specific instructions. It can only formulate a general direction and conditions framework for negotiations, and let the officials responsible for the matter control the scale and timing. In order to ensure that everything is done thoroughly and that others will supervise the implementation process, the Executive Committee plans to involve several other senior officials in the north to join the plan,
At present, in addition to Wang Tom, Haihan's senior officials in the north include Qian Tiandun, Chen Yixin, and Hao Wanqing. Except for Hao Wanqing, who is affiliated with the Ministry of Security, the other three are experienced senior military generals who are familiar with the situation in the north. It can be said that this lineup basically represents the will of the military. However, Chen Yixin and Qian Tiandun had received the Manchu envoys one after another and had a better understanding of the ins and outs of the matter. Hao Wanqing was an intelligence officer, so he could not be absent from such an important event, so it would not be too abrupt for the other three to join in.
But when a discerning person sees this lineup, it is not difficult to think that Haihan's current way of ruling overseas colonies has shown a serious bias. That is, overseas colonies far away from Hainan Island are almost all under the management of military generals. , and there is often a lack of senior officials responsible for administration, civil affairs, commerce, culture and education to preside over local government affairs.
The reason for this situation is not that the military holds power and refuses to let the executive committee appoint civilian officials to govern locally, but because there are too few people in the group of time travelers who are willing to develop overseas for a long time, and only those from the military Senior generals are more motivated and have a sense of responsibility, and are willing to lead troops to fight and expand territories all year round.
The vast majority of time travelers had various ambitions when they first participated in the operation. At least half of the ten people wanted to become the ruler of a certain region in this era. But when they actually came to this time and space, they slowly realized that many goals were not easy to achieve, and were often far beyond their capabilities. Ordinary people could not become famous figures in history under different circumstances. For the vast majority of ordinary people, no matter what kind of environment they find themselves in, they can only remain ordinary people in the end.
The only good thing is that even if these people who know their destiny don't have to work hard, they can still enjoy the dividends brought by time travel in this time and space, effortlessly live a high-class life, successfully marry a wife and have children without any worries. The carefree rich man. They may hold some dispensable positions in Sanya, or they may manage a town with a small population somewhere on Hainan Island. In short, they have a day job. During their annual vacation, they can go to Halong Bay in Annan or Guangzhou City in Ming Dynasty. Have some fun.
But if these people are asked to leave Hainan Island to develop elsewhere, they often refuse such a transfer, because everyone knows that the only place in this time and space where the living conditions are closest to the 21st century is Sanya. Outside of Hainan Island, there is basically another world, a world that is hundreds of years different from their living habits. Although they can also live a very superior life in overseas colonies, in their view, the social environment is ultimately comparable to that of Sanya, because it is likely that there will not be anyone of the same kind for months or even years. Opportunities for face-to-face communication.
This is not an isolated phenomenon among the time-travelers. Even in high-level organizations such as the Executive Committee, some people are gradually showing a similar mentality. Only by staying in Sanya can you live among the group of time-travelers, and leaving here means giving up your past to a certain extent and completely integrating into the environment of this time and space. Not everyone can have such determination and will. Many people I still hope to keep my own life circle and enjoy a stable life without worries about food and clothing in Hainan Island.
There are fewer and fewer travelers who are willing to go overseas for development, and the Executive Committee has no good solution for this. It cannot forcefully assign overseas missions and treat its own people as criminals. Basically, the only ones who really taste the benefits of overseas development are special groups, mainly military generals. Of course, they will not take the initiative to ask the executive committee to send people to share their power. So as time goes by, it gradually changes. It has become this weird situation now.
Therefore, when dealing with overseas affairs nowadays, the executive committee often has no choice but to rely on the power of the military. The reason is that there are often only high-level military officials in the local area. What else can they do if they are not handed over to the military? With such a major change in the situation in the north this time, the Executive Committee can only hand over the errands to the military. Fortunately, there is still Hao Wanqing staying in the north, who can play a supervisory role in the negotiation process.
Of course, the Executive Committee will not let this bad trend go unchecked, so it is currently trying to find ways to tap the potential within the group, trying to cultivate more people with governance capabilities, and then send them to serve overseas. But so far, such efforts do not seem to have any obvious results.
The news about the Manchu and Qing Dynasty's attempts to seek armistice peace talks is still a top secret known to only a few people, and there is no news in the market. However, the Qing army's looting operations in the Ming Dynasty in the past few months have been published in various newspapers in Sanya, and have become a hot topic among the people recently.
Since more than half of the population of Haihan are immigrants from the Ming Dynasty, the people have a natural affinity for the Ming Dynasty. However, because of this, the public opinion trend among the people is almost all that they hate iron but cannot make steel, and think that the resistance of the Ming Dynasty is too shocking. People were disappointed that the mighty Celestial Empire was unable to resist the invasion of the Qing army. You must know that just a few years ago, the predecessor of the Manchu Qing Dynasty was just a small Jianzhou Guard under the jurisdiction of the Ming Dynasty. Nurhaci has only been able to claim the title of Khan since he was founded. It has only been more than ten years, how come the situation has developed so fast, and the Qing army has already crossed the Yellow River in one fell swoop.
Of course, while blaming the Ming Dynasty, public opinion also generally believed that the Ming Dynasty did not seek help from Haihan in a timely manner like Korea, which was one of the main reasons for its complete defeat in front of the Qing army.
(End of chapter)